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    Paris-Roubaix bikes: full suspension road bikes?

    I guess this was before my time, so I am discovering this for the first time. Never knew Musseuw, Lemond and others experimented with suspension on road bikes for PR:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...evolved/216049

    http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=836

    So - what happened? Was this a good idea abandoned because of bad luck (having nothing to do with the bike)? Or was it a bad idea altogether?

    When I watch the slow-motion video of the Paris-Roubaix, and with all the vibrations, I kept thinking that some small amount of suspension may be helpful. Would it?

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    I took the bike that lemond rode out for spin back in the mid 1990s from Premier Cycles of Lakewood CO. It weighed a ton (close to 25 lbs) and accelerated like s sloth. If all of PR were cobbles, it might have been a reasonable bike, but there are just not enough cobbles for a pig of a bike like that to be a contender.

    I think with modern technology, a suspension bike could be made that wiehged well under 20 lbs, which would be a nice bike for the cobbleed classics, but that Lemond wasn't that bike..

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    The 1993 and 1994 winners (Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle and Andrei Tchmil) both had Road Shox forks, but not full suspension. The product ended up not being marketable and production stopped. Many peope said that you'd be better off with fatter tires and double wrapped cork tape.

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    I think if someone put a pivot at the seat tube and top tube junction it would help a ton.................
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    Uh... you mean what Trek just made and Cancellera was supposed to be riding?
    You're smart but too late.

    Domane 6 Series - Feature tour - Trek Bicycle

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    it was subtle

    Quote Originally Posted by zoikz View Post
    Uh... you mean what Trek just made and Cancellera was supposed to be riding?
    You're smart but too late.

    Domane 6 Series - Feature tour - Trek Bicycle
    but you need to dial up your sarcasm meter
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    Dario Pieri also road a Cannondale Silk Road frame with a head shock to 2nd place in 2003.

    Dario Pieri 2003 Paris Roubaix | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

    USPostal rode treks with a modified monostay with some kind of elastomer rear shock in 2006. But it was the steerer tube that did Hincapie in that year.

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    eh, those RS forks are funny, now in retrospect.

    All that technology for 1.5" of suspension? Hah! Oi, talk about over-kill and under-kill all wrapped up in one hideous package! Lower pressure tires are much better for the low amplitude, high frequency bumps at PR than an oil/coil fork.
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    I'm surprised more people don't ride cyclocross bikes with big ass tires. I know I would, but then again, I'd probably be looking for the broom wagon about five miles in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atpjunkie View Post
    but you need to dial up your sarcasm meter
    Actually I wasn't being sarcastic. Pretty cool he thought of the same idea as Trek did. Well not exactly the same, but pretty novel none the less.

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    Oh the dark time of suspension coming to the market.......sorry prejudice and ride a rigid 29er with fatties for a MTB.

    Something like these Jones bikes would be more practical, where a substantial amount of flex is engineered into the frame. I've ridden one and man are they nice! So much stinking fun, and very sexy:drool:

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    trek stole the elastomer design from khs.

    man, i remember that pari-roubaix when hincapie went over the bars. if there was ever a year he could win, it was that. he was well placed and had some help around him. ironic it was the steerer tube that sheered off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erj549 View Post
    I'm surprised more people don't ride cyclocross bikes with big ass tires. I know I would, but then again, I'd probably be looking for the broom wagon about five miles in.
    Boom was riding is usual CX bike last year. Guesdon was also riding an old aluminum lapierre CX bike from 2004.

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    Hi all, I had the opportunity back on 3-24-12 to test ride one of the Roundtail bikes on some rough brick roads and found it had a very nice ride - took all the harshness out.

    Just thought some might like to see this unique bike.

    Later, Axlenut
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    I aint' buying it, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoikz View Post
    Actually I wasn't being sarcastic. Pretty cool he thought of the same idea as Trek did. Well not exactly the same, but pretty novel none the less.
    Trek thought of it? Sure it wasn't Moots? I'm just sayin ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoikz View Post
    Actually I wasn't being sarcastic. Pretty cool he thought of the same idea as Trek did. Well not exactly the same, but pretty novel none the less.
    LOL......He meant Hand/of/Midas was being sarcastic.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rokh On View Post
    Trek thought of it? Sure it wasn't Moots? I'm just sayin ...
    Moots isn't anything like the Trek set-up. Unless you're talking about some Moots prototype that isn't in production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokh On View Post
    Trek thought of it? Sure it wasn't Moots? I'm just sayin ...
    was moots (and KHS) doing elastometer insert, or was it the hinge on a bearing?
    I am sure TREK didn't invent it or was first, but the hinge on Domane's Isospeed is different from elastometer, and provides 23mm of vertical compliance, which is a huge distance!

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    Not UCI Legal!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by weltyed View Post
    trek stole the elastomer design from khs.

    man, i remember that pari-roubaix when hincapie went over the bars. if there was ever a year he could win, it was that. he was well placed and had some help around him. ironic it was the steerer tube that sheered off.
    trek does not have elastomer, despite early reports. The rubber piece is to protect bearings from dust/dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 55x11 View Post
    trek does not have elastomer, despite early reports. The rubber piece is to protect bearings from dust/dirt.
    I think he is talking about hincapie's old bike the SPA or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by axlenut View Post
    Hi all, I had the opportunity back on 3-24-12 to test ride one of the Roundtail bikes on some rough brick roads and found it had a very nice ride - took all the harshness out.

    Just thought some might like to see this unique bike.

    Later, Axlenut
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    not you

    Quote Originally Posted by zoikz View Post
    Actually I wasn't being sarcastic. Pretty cool he thought of the same idea as Trek did. Well not exactly the same, but pretty novel none the less.
    Midas was being sarcastic

    Midas was well aware of Trek's bike
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    all wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by 55x11 View Post
    was moots (and KHS) doing elastometer insert, or was it the hinge on a bearing?
    I am sure TREK didn't invent it or was first, but the hinge on Domane's Isospeed is different from elastometer, and provides 23mm of vertical compliance, which is a huge distance!
    it was DeKerf who did the elastomer seat stay, flexing chain stay first. Moots adopted it for the YBB, Ibis perfected it with the Silk Ti and KHS made a cheap knock off
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    see above

    Quote Originally Posted by weltyed View Post
    trek stole the elastomer design from khs.

    man, i remember that pari-roubaix when hincapie went over the bars. if there was ever a year he could win, it was that. he was well placed and had some help around him. ironic it was the steerer tube that sheered off.
    khs was the last in a long line starting with Dekerf and the Softtail
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