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    Katusha denied Pro Tour License

    WTF! Wasn't J Rod the top cyclist of the last season?

    I was sure Saxo-Tink were going to be relegated instead.

    Theory One: The UCI knows or suspects something about Katusha that we don't.

    Theory Two: UCI's World Tour decisions involve reading the inards of dead goats

    Theory Three: Conti sells airtime better than J Rod

    Let the conspiracy theorists loose on this one:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/katu...ldtour-licence
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    I was surprised when I read this article this morning, too.

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    I'm blown away by this. Yes let the conspiracy theories begin. I thought for sure that Euskatel would get thrown out with all the problems that the team is facing. I mean they have to sell the team buses just to make payroll for last month! Go figure.

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    I was shocked and can't even begin to figure out why. J-rod put them in the limelight all summer.
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    Shocked is the Cycling Word of the Year 2013...

    Theory four: UCI infighting. Hein/Pat v.s. Igor/Andrei.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Yeah, I just saw the news and didn't have Katusha on my list of teams that could potentially get dropped at all. I tought Saxobank and Radioshack had far more significant problems. Wow.
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    Theory 5: someone on Katusha forgot to grease the cogs at UCI...
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    j/k lol kthxbye!

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    No surprise that Saxo got in, but the Katusha denial is a shocker. As was noted earlier Euskatel is selling assets to make a late payroll. I can't imagine Euskatel is bondable at any cost for 2013, which I understood was/is a UCI ProTour requirement.

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    Also "Former Rabobank" got a license...
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    j/k lol kthxbye!

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    My take...

    One: they have Ekimov as the boss now, he's probably mentioned a few times in the Lance files.... That's got to make them lose quite a few ethical points... Of course Bank-Bank with Riis and Astana are not much better now with Vino but their dirt is already known and out there, it's easier to deal with crap you know about than crap you get thrown in the face out of nowhere. Then again, they might already know how dirty Eki is, but that doesn't matter to them, it's what the media and public know that matters. The UCI, with their commission looking into their dealings seem to focus on the Lance/USPS issue, but they still act like bozos and sweep every other problems under the rug as if every other teams were fine and other cases didn't matter.

    Two: Menchov, Kolobnev, Gusev and Ignatiev are all named in the Ferrari's money laundering case in Italy that will probably explose sometime in 2013.

    With so many guns rightfully pointed to Pat, Hein and friends heads right now, I guess they wanted to avoid the mess that will probably end up when these guys names get officially dragged into courts... It may just be some panic from the UCI, they're in hot soup, from now on, every move they do is to try to save their faces and cling to the power and money as long as possible.

    And remember who runs the UCI, they apparently protected Lance, probably because he was good money for the sport and for themselves, Alberto is also one of the racers that brings a lot of cash into the sport, not as much as Lance, but I'm pretty sure they want him racing as much as possible.

    Something that might hurt Katusha even more is that they're not members of the MPCC (Mouvement pour un cyclisme crédible) and many race organizers recently agreed to prioritize MPCC teams to non-MPCC teams when handing wildcard invites... Most stage race organizers would love to have Purito in their races since he is one of the few racers making races an entertaining show... but if they fall behind the other non-WorldTour teams in the invites priority, 2013 might be very hard for them... Sucks for Purito but, Katusha have been a very shady team from the start so...
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    I'm still baffled by this but no clarification has been issued by the UCI. The decision seems very left-of-field...

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    I knew there was no way Saxo and Conti would be left out in the cold. Surprised they gave Jrod the boot instead....

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    Damn shame. Love watching Purito always attacking.

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    Purito might jump ship to another team - as Conti pointed out, it's hard to train for the GTs if you don't have a lot of warning. Not many people can come off the beach as Conti did and proceed to win a Grand Tour.

    J Rod has got to be involved for the drama to be complete - hope he finds another ride soon.
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    Makarov has just declared war on the UCI.
    For background read this: http://inrng.com/2011/12/tinker-tailor-cyclist-spy/
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    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gerous View Post
    My take...

    One: they have Ekimov as the boss now, he's probably mentioned a few times in the Lance files.... That's got to make them lose quite a few ethical points... Of course Bank-Bank with Riis and Astana are not much better now with Vino but their dirt is already known and out there, it's easier to deal with crap you know about than crap you get thrown in the face out of nowhere. Then again, they might already know how dirty Eki is, but that doesn't matter to them, it's what the media and public know that matters. The UCI, with their commission looking into their dealings seem to focus on the Lance/USPS issue, but they still act like bozos and sweep every other problems under the rug as if every other teams were fine and other cases didn't matter.

    Two: Menchov, Kolobnev, Gusev and Ignatiev are all named in the Ferrari's money laundering case in Italy that will probably explose sometime in 2013.

    With so many guns rightfully pointed to Pat, Hein and friends heads right now, I guess they wanted to avoid the mess that will probably end up when these guys names get officially dragged into courts... It may just be some panic from the UCI, they're in hot soup, from now on, every move they do is to try to save their faces and cling to the power and money as long as possible.

    And remember who runs the UCI, they apparently protected Lance, probably because he was good money for the sport and for themselves, Alberto is also one of the racers that brings a lot of cash into the sport, not as much as Lance, but I'm pretty sure they want him racing as much as possible.

    Something that might hurt Katusha even more is that they're not members of the MPCC (Mouvement pour un cyclisme crédible) and many race organizers recently agreed to prioritize MPCC teams to non-MPCC teams when handing wildcard invites... Most stage race organizers would love to have Purito in their races since he is one of the few racers making races an entertaining show... but if they fall behind the other non-WorldTour teams in the invites priority, 2013 might be very hard for them... Sucks for Purito but, Katusha have been a very shady team from the start so...
    Well said and this pretty much sums it up from what I've heard from my sources as well. Its another UCI fiasco move which in this case will bring "Russian Heat" to Pat. To go a little further, I'm told there is someone tied to the Mantova investigation as well. I hear Purito is free to go to another team. Only time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbwh View Post
    Makarov has just declared war on the UCI.
    For background read this: inrng : tinker, tailor, cyclist, spy
    wow. very interesting read

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbwh View Post
    Makarov has just declared war on the UCI.
    For background read this: inrng : tinker, tailor, cyclist, spy
    Yes, facinating reading indeed. Unfortunetly, what could be expected from a country presently run by millionaire former spys.

    The way things work in Russia/The USSR/Russia continues to amaze. Gives you an idea what a country run by a mafia looks like.

    Still, a pity for the riders...
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    I can't figure out who is the more poorly run organization; the UCI or the NY Jets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weasel View Post
    I can't figure out who is the more poorly run organization; the UCI or the NY Jets.
    +1 - It's a dead-heat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Weasel View Post
    I can't figure out who is the more poorly run organization; the UCI or the NY Jets.
    Let's kill 2 birds with one stone and give Tim Tebow a job: new president of the UCI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by azpeterb View Post
    Let's kill 2 birds with one stone and give Tim Tebow a job: new president of the UCI!
    Ah Oh - I sense this thread will be moved to the "My NFL Team Sucks" forum...wait for it...
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    J-Rod will get an invite to any race he commits to. I still think he will jump ship to someone else since it is allowed in his contract. With Nibali gone, Cannondale would love it. Omega would kill for a legit GC guy.
    Cyclists really need to learn a little Rule #5.

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