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    Question on bike-switches on the TdF

    I know that in some teams, one of the domestiques is designated to relinquish his bike if the team leader needs it. So, what are the restrictions on bike-swapping? Can a rider have one bike set up for sprints, and another for climbs, then either switch from the team car, or from a designated domestique​? Or from another rider on another team? What are the regulations and limitations?
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    Does it matter? Haha. Let's say a French rider wants a new bike, or the yellow jersey wearer? Does the peloton have to stop and wait for the swap? Are Colombians and South Africans subject to time penalties? We need to stop trying to grasp rules in cycling. There really aren't any. And it's OK, it's like a leap of faith. Sometimes you just have to let art flow over you.
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    There are no restrictions within the team or from neutral support (the yellow Mavic car). It is illegal to accept equipment from another team. Last year a rider was penalized (I think maybe dq'ed) from a big race because he accepted a wheel from a rider on another team.

    It's not unheard of for a rider to change to a different bike during a race, I.e. Aero or TT bike to climbing bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfc View Post
    There are no restrictions within the team or from neutral support (the yellow Mavic car). It is illegal to accept equipment from another team. Last year a rider was penalized (I think maybe dq'ed) from a big race because he accepted a wheel from a rider on another team.

    It's not unheard of for a rider to change to a different bike during a race, I.e. Aero or TT bike to climbing bike.
    yeah that was Porte getting a wheel from Clarke.
    2 minutes penalty each. which of course was not a problem for clarke.
    edited: in the Giro d'Italia 2016
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    As long as you don't get bike parts or a bike from another team you're fine. You can however get water bottles from other teams. Also they did not penalize Tyler Ferrah for getting a bike from a fan when he had a problem with his and there were no team cars OR neutral service cars behind him. Then you have the situation at Movistar where Quintana is too small height wise to beable to swap with any of his teammates. Valverde will swap bikes with whichever of his teammates happens to be around, although he always has a gearing issue with teammates bikes due to the "odd" gearing (as the team put it) that he uses. He is more of a power rider than a high cadence rider so he prefers to swap with the non climbers on the team but does not always have that option. Possibly the funniest story of a bike swap was this year at (I think it was) Basque Coutry where he swapped bikes with Gorka Izagirre and finished in the top 5 on the stage. Groka said after the stage, My bike got a top five. I'm never going to sprint to a top five, but now my bike has a top 5 in a sprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoroninK View Post
    As long as you don't get bike parts or a bike from another team you're fine. You can however get water bottles from other teams. Also they did not penalize Tyler Ferrah for getting a bike from a fan when he had a problem with his and there were no team cars OR neutral service cars behind him. Then you have the situation at Movistar where Quintana is too small height wise to beable to swap with any of his teammates. Valverde will swap bikes with whichever of his teammates happens to be around, although he always has a gearing issue with teammates bikes due to the "odd" gearing (as the team put it) that he uses. He is more of a power rider than a high cadence rider so he prefers to swap with the non climbers on the team but does not always have that option. Possibly the funniest story of a bike swap was this year at (I think it was) Basque Coutry where he swapped bikes with Gorka Izagirre and finished in the top 5 on the stage. Groka said after the stage, My bike got a top five. I'm never going to sprint to a top five, but now my bike has a top 5 in a sprint.
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    Agree with the above but, and I know this won't be popular, I would like to see the riders restricted to one bike type, including TTs for the whole of the Tour. Replacements still allowed but it has to be the same frame etc. If someone wants to ride the entire Tour on a TT bike then that's up to them. I would like to see less specialism in bikes and more attemps at making good all-rounder GT bikes.

    Just my view (and I know it won't happen - Too many $$$$ against it)

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    I thought there was restrictions on swapping bikes which is why you see riders faking a mechanical to switch to a climbing bike for example? I must be wrong.

    I'd like to see Sagan switch to a disc bike with a dropper post on a descent though, just for giggles.

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    there have been TT where I suspect a rider faked a mechanical in order to make use of a bike from the beginning to some point, then another bike from that point on out.

    you can always fake a mechanical by claiming the gear switching was wonky, and you were not happy. no way to verify that gremlin.

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