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    Here's why chocolate milk is better than whey - post workout

    I've read numerous posts about post workout recovery. Some people say protein some say chocolate milk. I used to work out a lot and tried gaining weight. During this I used supplements like different kinds of protein, creatine, etc. As I've stopped lifting as much for size and now for strength, I stopped using supplements since I didn't really see a difference. Well started to notice that your body needs something after a strenuous workout or ride and I read a few posts where people suggested chocolate milk. I never really knew why but I just started doing it. I was looking at the benefits of it the other day and ran across this article that does an in-depth study of chocolate milk vs a brand of protein called Surge. The conclusion is that chocolate milk has pretty much the same or more nutrients as surge. And choclate milk taste 100 times better.

    Heres a link to the study.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...-recovery.html

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    This is somewhat old news but I agree.

    Too easy to stir up a glass of chocolate milk.

    I've also found that on repeated long hard days a chocolate milkshake is required for full recovery.

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    I'm still hungry from a Saturday race and my ride yesterday. After reading this, I'm thinking I'll be getting a milk shake tonight. Merlin my daughters thank you they'll be real happy with a trip to Brewster's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmanco
    I've read numerous posts about post workout recovery. Some people say protein some say chocolate milk. I used to work out a lot and tried gaining weight. During this I used supplements like different kinds of protein, creatine, etc. As I've stopped lifting as much for size and now for strength, I stopped using supplements since I didn't really see a difference. Well started to notice that your body needs something after a strenuous workout or ride and I read a few posts where people suggested chocolate milk. I never really knew why but I just started doing it. I was looking at the benefits of it the other day and ran across this article that does an in-depth study of chocolate milk vs a brand of protein called Surge. The conclusion is that chocolate milk has pretty much the same or more nutrients as surge. And choclate milk taste 100 times better.

    Heres a link to the study.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...-recovery.html
    Umm...whey protein is milk protein. Milk also has casein protein. If you want a cheap source of whey protein just buy dried milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bocephus Jones II
    Umm...whey protein is milk protein. Milk also has casein protein. If you want a cheap source of whey protein just buy dried milk.
    Milk is 80% casein and only 20% whey. They both do different things. Whey is made from the by product of cheese production. The difference between casein and whey is that casein takes hours for your body to absorb while whey is absorbed in a very short time. Whey increases protein synthesis and casein blocks protein breakdown, thats why a mixture of both is better than just whey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinAma
    This is somewhat old news but I agree.

    Too easy to stir up a glass of chocolate milk.

    I've also found that on repeated long hard days a chocolate milkshake is required for full recovery.
    Yeah I knew it was old news, I just never found the scientific proof that made me believe my delicious choclate milk was working. Now I can enjoy it and know I'm getting a good recovery drink with the stuff I need

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmanco
    Milk is 80% casein and only 20% whey. They both do different things. Whey is made from the by product of cheese production. The difference between casein and whey is that casein takes hours for your body to absorb while whey is absorbed in a very short time. Whey increases protein synthesis and casein blocks protein breakdown, thats why a mixture of both is better than just whey.

    I wonder how much of the reasoning for whey is because the dairy manufacturers wanted to sell a by product of cheese?

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    Are you reading the whole study?
    They are comparing chocolate milk to Surge, which uses WPH
    and a number of other ingredients. Way too many variables
    involved to make a blanket statement the all whey protein
    supplements (WPI) are prima facie inferior.

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    I cover both...

    I mix chocolate powder in with my Endurox R4 and protein supplement...Is it better for me?? Who knows....But it sure tastes better!

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    2% milk mixed with Carnation Instant Breakfast (chocolate of course) has been shown to improve my average speed by 3mph the following day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinAma
    Too easy to stir up a glass of chocolate milk.
    this interests me. Am I better off buying Oberweis chocolate milk, store-brand, or mixing my own with powders or syrups?

    Oberweis adds sugar, cocoa, dextrose (basically glucose?), then carrageenan and corn starch presumably for thickening agents. Other brands use high fructose corn syrup for sweetening, as do most syrups (Hershey's?). They may also use "skim" or low fat milk then add the thickening agents for the rich texture. I'd rather skip the thickening agents and throw a banana and peanut butter with it in the blender.

    Sugar is 50/50 glucose/fructose. Adding dextrose tips the sugar proportion towards glucose. The opposite effect is achieved by HFCS, which is typically 45/55 glucose/fructose? Long but interesting video on sugar/HFCS is here. Not that its to be taken as gospel, but might be worth a look.

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    I've found that a Brooklyn Brewing black choc stout is the optimal recovery drink
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees
    2% milk mixed with Carnation Instant Breakfast (chocolate of course) has been shown to increase my body weight 3 pounds by the following day.
    FTFY. . .
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    I bought a gallon of chocolate milk last night.
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    Overthinking

    Quote Originally Posted by black_box
    this interests me. Am I better off buying Oberweis chocolate milk, store-brand, or mixing my own with powders or syrups?

    Oberweis adds sugar, cocoa, dextrose (basically glucose?), then carrageenan and corn starch presumably for thickening agents. Other brands use high fructose corn syrup for sweetening, as do most syrups (Hershey's?). They may also use "skim" or low fat milk then add the thickening agents for the rich texture. I'd rather skip the thickening agents and throw a banana and peanut butter with it in the blender.

    Sugar is 50/50 glucose/fructose. Adding dextrose tips the sugar proportion towards glucose. The opposite effect is achieved by HFCS, which is typically 45/55 glucose/fructose?
    You're thinking WAY too hard about this, though I must admit that is exactly what the energy drink makers want you to do. Chocolate milk is a good recovery food because it contains carbohydrates (largely in the form of sugars), complete protein, and some fat plus it gives you liquids. You can get to the same end point lots of different ways. The point about chocolate milk is that "recovery drink" makers are ripping you off in that they don't offer anything that chocolate milk doesn't. Worrying about g/f ratios or whether something contains HFCS is pretty pointless.

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    thanks and good point. It's not the first time I've overanalyzed something (or been caught doing it ).
    Last edited by black_box; 05-11-2010 at 07:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black_box
    thanks and good point. It's not the first time I've overanalyzed something (or been caught doing it ).
    Whenever I hear about ratios of X to Y versus a specific amount of X or Y, my eyes glaze over from the marketing-speak.

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    Chocolate almond milk, banana, ground flax seed, ice - blend.

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    The top finishers at Battenkill got a quart bottle of chocolate milk, which was probably because a dairy was a sponsor. Because I wasn't a top finisher, I had to buy my own, and it was definitely worth it. Never has chocolate milk tasted so delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hula Hoop
    Are you reading the whole study?
    They are comparing chocolate milk to Surge, which uses WPH
    and a number of other ingredients. Way too many variables
    involved to make a blanket statement the all whey protein
    supplements (WPI) are prima facie inferior.
    Whey protein hydrolysate (WPH) is better than whey protein isolate (WPI) because it is the fastest absorbing and highest quality protein and its still whey protein.But anyway, I don't even care if chocolate milk doesn't work as good as other proteins, its so much more satisfying to drink. It's delicious.

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    Had chocolate milk after my ride yesterday and loved it. Previously a myoplex guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcekstrom
    Had chocolate milk after my ride yesterday and loved it. Previously a myoplex guy.
    Glad to see some people are switching over. It's so much more inexpensive and taste better too. It makes me wonder about other things out there that are just a marketing scam.
    While I drink milk and consume dairy products, I've seen this site a few times notmilk.com and I really have trouble believing some of the stuff on there. It pretty much connects milk to every disease out there, especially cancer, saying we shouldn't consume dairy products, blah blah blah. It's not going to stop me though.

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    FWIW, I prefer the "organic" , 1% fat, choc milk brands.

    The organic choc milk contains cane sugar, whereas the non-organic typically is full of high fructose corn syrup.

    On principle I won't ingest HFCS, although I'm not aware of hard evidence that HFCS is really any worse than "organic sugar" ... AFAIK and I could be misinformed.

    Anyway, overall, the organic choc milk lists less strange ingredients, and more "pure" ingredients, such as real cocoa and vanilla. I'm a believer in "eat real food".

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    A few months of Oberweis and I think I've turned into a chocolate milk snob. I got some Dean's 1% choc. milk without reading the label... it's actually skim milk (how is that 1%?) with HFCS and it tastes artificially sweet to me.

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