Ritchey Dave, can you share some of the spec on the 2012 production version of the Logic Road frame/fork? Geometry (including bb drop) for each size? Are the fork legs and/or steerer steel or carbon? BB shell format? Will Excel have them in July?
The pics from NAHBS show a color that looks to be a charcoal. Is this the color for the production run coming?
The 2012 Ritchey Road Logic will share a lot of the same spec as the SwissCross that we've recently released: heat treated, triple-butted Ritchey Logic II tubing, standard english BB, forged and machined integrated head tube. They will come with a painted to match Ritchey Pro Logic road fork which is full carbon. The frame you saw at NAHBS is pretty much exactly what they'll look like. And yes, our buddies at Excel Sports will be carrying them.
We're extremely excited about this frame, I've been testing one out for a few weeks and two words come to mind, buttery smooth.
Hi Dave, eagerly awaiting the re-release of the road logic. I bought my first one in 1997 and definitely regret selling it, but I was young and I needed the money.
CELEBRATING 40 YEARS OF RITCHEY STEEL: Tom Ritchey built his first road frame 40 years ago and went on to bring numerous innovations to the craft. The 2012 Road Logic carries many of the subtleties and details gleaned from Tom’s vast experience with steel frames.
A MODERN CLASSIC: Tom designed an all-new, heat-treated and triple-butted Ritchey Logic tubeset for the new Road Logic, featuring aggressively short butted sections optimized for TIG welding that save weight and improve ride quality. Ritchey’s proprietary forged and machined integrated head tube uses standard drop-in bearings and saves 80 grams over a standard head tube design.
QUALITY STEEL WITH REAL-WORLD FEATURES: Frames are handmade in Asia by a frame builder qualified by Tom Ritchey himself. And with room for 700x28c tires and classic Ritchey geometry, the Road Logic is ideally suited for long, epic days in the saddle on roads that are not always paved and still nimble and stiff enough to take the county line sprint at the end of the day.
SIZE: 49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59cm
WEIGHT: 3.9lbs (55cm)
MSRP: $1299.99
ETA: Late August
I check Excel every day to see if the new Road Logic shows up.I've got a 15 yr old Logic with steel fork that still rides great but it would be nice to give it a stable mate!
Hanging question I never got around to asking. In an interview Tom said he used a 1 inch headtube but 1-1/8th inch steerer. Can anyone explain what he meant by that?
Good question! Most headtubes have a larger diameter (1 1/8") to accommodate headset cups to be pressed in and still allow the steer tube to move freely. Since we integrated the cups into the headtube and removed the redundant material of the cups, there was no need for the tube to be as large. A smaller tube (1") with thicker walls would be lighter and stronger, two things we as cyclist can never have enough of. Thus, making everything we love about steel frames even lighter.
I'd like to start gathering some parts for a new Road Logic! Could you pass along the seat post size and if its a clamp on FD the size for that? Thanks in advance.
Ritchey Dave - why such a steep seat tube on the small sizes, resulting in a really long reach! Also, any thoughts between the new road logic vs the nitanium ones from mid-90's, as that's what I'm currently riding?
I'm wondering what the fender/mudguard potential is for this? Suspect perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but what is the clearance like on the carbon fork??
There are no fender mounts on the frame or fork, however you can install fenders that have clamps that wrap around the stays. The biggest fender/mudguard limiting factor on the Road Logic is the fork. I've had good luck with Crud Roadracers on our forks as long as you're using 23c tires.
Great, thanks Dave. I thought as much - it's hard to find a full carbon road fork with just a little bit more clearance without going to a 'cross setup.
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