Generally, Ultegra is updated a year after DA, and 105 a year later etc. Given that DA9000 seems to have been crazy slow to come out since the announcement, especially the power meters, is the consensus that Ultegra 6900/6970 (if that's what they'll be called) will be announced this summer and released for sale at the end of the year, or not until 2018 announcement and release end of 2018?
What got me thinking about this, is my want to get a power meter at some point in the medium term. I was thinking Stages 6800, however 1) If 6900 is about to be released, then Stages often discount off the older models to clear stock once the new one is out. So I should wait a year, and 2) Possibly 6900 may have a power meter option ... if Shimano can get 9000 out.
Shimano must already know if they're doing a power meter in 6900. If not, I'm not really sure what improvements they'll make for 6900.
I haven't asked recently but last I was told the new Ultegra will launch in May.
It will be years before Stages has a discount sale on 6800, don't hold your breath. You're wrong about them clearing out the previous generation as soon as the new comes out. Are the 9000 units on clearance now? I didn't think so. 9100 has been out for a while now, Stages has had 9100 units for months.
I've been told that the new Ultegra will not be carrying a power meter crank as an option, just Dura-Ace.
Keep in mind that I get my info from Shimano USA, which is not a part of Shimano Japan and they don't know much better than the rest of us. It's just hearsay until Japan releases something.
...You're wrong about them clearing out the previous generation as soon as the new comes out. Are the 9000 units on clearance now? I didn't think so. 9100 has been out for a while now, Stages has had 9100 units for months.
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I asked today about new stuff, I guess they're trying to get something ready for the first week of April. Probably not Ultegra, not sure what it is... nobody really knows anything around here :rolleyes5:
The 785s have already be replaced with the Dura Ace branded 9170. When Shimano launches a product with a number and not a name, it's to see how people will respond to it. If it does well, then it gets a name next time. If people hate it, well then at least it didn't hurt a product line's reputation.
It's been hinted at over and over again that Ultegra will follow DA pretty closely and it should be happening later this year. No one will say anything if you ask them directly, but once you get them talking comfortably with you, they sometimes stop themselves mid-sentence and redirect.
Interesting. I'm guessing that means ergonomic improvements for shifters, direct mount brake options, Di2 improvements with wiring/junction boxes etc ... but really, nothing game changing? Good to know.
I'll stick to my plan of getting a stages in the medium term, thinking spring/summer 2018.
I'm really hoping they stick to this alleged April/May release timeline (or at least an official announcement). I'm building up a bike this year and the money is slow in coming due to when I'm on schedule for standby at work (where I get my play money as it's outside the standard income/budget). I figure I'll have the money for the groupset in early June so by then I should know whether I should resign myself to picking up 6800 (hopefully on a bit more of a discount) or If I can get the latest shiny.
If I'm effectively forced to get 6800 I'll certainly be picking up the R9100 FD. It's cheap enough and I understand the integrated barrel adjuster is worth the price alone, on top of the additional general refinements.
I see, just not in the Shimano thread. I'll go looking for them, interested to see what the consensus is.
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