Neuvation, how good are they?

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

Looking into a new set of wheels and got my eye on the R28's. How good are the wheels overall and the hubs? What type of durability can I expect? I'm very light, 110 pounds, maybe even less now. I like the aero spokes on the R28 Aero series but they seem to weight a bit more. Is this due to the spokes or other build qualities not obvious from looking at their site? I'm sure alot of members here own some neuvation wheels. Please chime in and give me your opinions.

Mike T. · 2 Weeks Ago

That's what the Review section is for. This site isn't called Roadbike REVIEW fer nutt'n.

natethomas2000 · 2 Weeks Ago

I have a little over 1000 miles on some M28SL's - completely true and they roll very well.

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

Has anyone tried to service the hubs? Any more difficult than some of the shimano hubs?

valleycyclist · 2 Weeks Ago

Neuvation has good instructions on their website. The M and R hubs are serviced differently. I think the most you would do is grease the freehub body since the hubs have sealed bearings. Shimano hubs have loose bearings and the service procedure is totally different.

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

ic ic, thank you. I'm still new to cycling and the wrenching aspect has me intrigued about servicing my own stuff.

carveitup · 2 Weeks Ago

I have R28 Aero2s and have had to grease the freehub a couple of times due to a horrible creaking sound developing. But the cleaning/greasing did solve the problem and was very easy. Their customer service is known to be very good and their wheels are a pretty good value.

I think they've improved the hub design/materials since the 2s but I'm not certain.

pmt · 2 Weeks Ago

I've replaced the press-fit cartridge bearings and it's super easy. They have clear instructions and good support; they will supply new bearings or you can get them from any industrial supply house.

jpdigital · 2 Weeks Ago

I have a 4-year-old set of R28SL's. Verrrry smooth rollers indeed!! Taking apart the rear hub assembly is super easy.

But as for the rims, mine are showing some stress cracks around some of the spoke holes. However, over the years I have put them through some fair (and occasionally intentional

) abuse. All in all, the customer service is very, very good and I can honestly say I've gotten more than my $$$'s worth out the wheels.

Now they shall be retired and replaced by my 1st personally-hand-built wheelset

.....

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

I've emailed John at Neuvation and he says I can't get all brass nipples if I wanted because he just buys them direct from the factory and ships it to customers. I wanted some wheels to. Too bad... Guess I'll just stick with my Mavic OP/Dura Ace/DT comp. wheels for now and keep on hunting for something lighter or more aero. Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate it.

jpdigital · 2 Weeks Ago

I've pretty much decided that all my wheels from here on out will have to be handbuilt for similar reasons. At least all my rear wheels will need brass nipples (not because I'm a heavy rider-- I'm no more that 155lbs at the heaviest, but because of corrosive sweat). I haven't seen any mass produced wheels offered with brass nipples.

IMO a lot of wheel manufacturers are worried buyers will see the higher weight of the wheels w/ brass nipples and look elsewhere for something similar but lighter in weight. I think a big part of it is consumers not being fully educated about all the pros & cons. and automatically think that "lighter is better" because that's all they hear from the marketing people.

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by jpdigital

IMO a lot of wheel manufacturers are worried buyers will see the higher weight of the wheels w/ brass nipples and look elsewhere for something similar but lighter in weight. I think a big part of it is consumers not being fully educated about all the pros & cons. and automatically think that "lighter is better" because that's all they hear from the marketing people.

So true, most cyclist aren't on forums educating themselves.

I just want a decently light wheel with aero spokes and a good durable hub... and brass nipples.. I live in San Francisco and ride the golden gate bridge every now and then.

jpdigital · 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by College

Ain't nothing wrong with those wheels. Aren't they the standard? They'll last a helluva lot longer than the Neuvations.

Alloy nipples aren't bad until you realize that if you have a case of the highly corrosive sweats (like myself) you'll corrode them out. Hence the need for brass nipples.

Weav · 2 Weeks Ago

The Neuvations are made in the same factory using same hubs, same spokes, same builders and similiar but slightly different rims as the Easton wheels that sell for around $800. I'd call that quality for those on a budget, especially since you can get a set for less than $300. As to whether the Neuvations will last, I think you can fairly compare them to how long an Easton wheel will last.

pmt · 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Weav

The Neuvations are made in the same factory using same hubs, same spokes, same builders and similiar but slightly different rims as the Easton wheels that sell for around $800. I'd call that quality for those on a budget, especially since you can get a set for less than $300. As to whether the Neuvations will last, I think you can fairly compare them to how long an Easton wheel will last.

Makes sense; there's only going to be a limited number of factories. Any chance you have a link or a source to corroborate that?

Weav · 2 Weeks Ago

There's probably more than you would think. Alot of times it's not what you know but who you know. This isn't a source for my previous statement but have a look at this interview. http://www.testrider.com/fly.aspx?la...ayer&video=112 ... the guy on Testrider also reviews the neuvation wheels, just search around his site and you'll find it.

Neuvation's owner has contacts within the bike industry that most startups don't have, especially in the manufacturing and supply areas. My only basis for making the comparison between Neuvation and Easton is that is what the owner told me. His website states that his wheels are made along side some much higher priced wheels so I asked him. I'm just a customer who's going to be buying a set in the near future, and I'm a curious bloke to boot.

pmt · 2 Weeks Ago

Cool, I certainly love my Neuvation wheels. I've had thousands of k's of good service.

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

I was in the market for a new set of wheels and wanted something lighter than my mavic op/dura ace. Brass nipples was one of the things I am going for since I live by the ocean.

Weav · 2 Weeks Ago

Here's an article that alludes to the Easton connection as well from Slowtwitch. Just scroll down until you see the paragraph on Neuvation. http://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/W...cles__505.html

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by pmt

Makes sense; there's only going to be a limited number of factories. Any chance you have a link or a source to corroborate that?

I think the neuvation wheels are a hell of a deal, just missed one spot from my criteria thats all.

thechriswebb · 2 Weeks Ago

Well, please don't compromise and get something that isn't what you want. I just wanted to address the suggestion that Mavic wheels are better and will last longer than the Neuvations. I have to question that, as I own a pair of Neuvations and they are the nicest and best wheels that I have ever owned, though they are not the most expensive. Sometimes you are taking a risk when you decide to steer away from the mainstream manufacturers, but that is NOT the case with Neuvation wheels. They have developed a credible reputation for quality and durability which is well deserved. I am not a shill, I am just a happy customer, which you will find lots of if you read the reviews on Neuvation wheels on this site.

Having owned Mavic and Neuvation wheels, I find it nearly laughable to suggest that Neuvations are of an inherent lower quality. People who say that have obviously either not ridden them or are referring to a flawed earlier generation that has not been sold for years. The customer service is top notch, the product is good, and you will encounter very very few unsatisfied customers with them.

Good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for.

-Chris-

Tommy919 · 2 Weeks Ago

I have no doubts Neuvation wheels are a good set of wheels. I just wanted brass nipples on a aero set or R28 set. If they gave me the option of having brass nipples I would've ordered it a few days after starting this thread. If I didn't care about brass nipples the neuvation wheels are perfect for what I want.

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Originally Posted by thechriswebb

Well, please don't compromise and get something that isn't what you want. I just wanted to address the suggestion that Mavic wheels are better and will last longer than the Neuvations. I have to question that, as I own a pair of Neuvations and they are the nicest and best wheels that I have ever owned, though they are not the most expensive. Sometimes you are taking a risk when you decide to steer away from the mainstream manufacturers, but that is NOT the case with Neuvation wheels. They have developed a credible reputation for quality and durability which is well deserved. I am not a shill, I am just a happy customer, which you will find lots of if you read the reviews on Neuvation wheels on this site.

Having owned Mavic and Neuvation wheels, I find it nearly laughable to suggest that Neuvations are of an inherent lower quality. People who say that have obviously either not ridden them or are referring to a flawed earlier generation that has not been sold for years. The customer service is top notch, the product is good, and you will encounter very very few unsatisfied customers with them.

Good luck, I hope you find what you are looking for.

-Chris-

valleycyclist · 1 Week Ago

I'm from San Francisco, and it is always "fun" riding in the wind, especially on the GG bridge. Maybe a low(er) profile rim is the way to go. Also, aero spokes are a little worse if there is a cross-wind since more surface area will be against the wind.

This is a short loop I like to do when I'm in the area. Maybe I'll PM you the next time I'm in town.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3307512

Tommy919 · 1 Week Ago

Thats cool. I ride along great highway pretty often. GG bridge every now and again.

jhamlin38 · 1 Week Ago

neuvation wheels are very solid wheels. I've used a set for four years. The brake track is smooth and inmy area, they get the crap beat out of 'em. I've never had to touch them with a spoke wrench. The effect of sidewinds is not a concern. After living in chicago, a very windy place, I can speak to that variable.
They are well worth the money, and a sensational value to boot.