Vittoria Open Pave Evo CG 320tpi (clincher) 700x24c tyre, width=25mm on 700x15c rim
Hi there
Just a short info to the actual size. I use the internet a lot for this kind of information/research and thought I post it here. I ordered the Vittoria Open Pave Evo CG 700x24c (they were not cheap at £80 for the pair):
On my 622x15c (15 mm width) Fulcrum 2011 Racing 5 rim the tyre measures: 25mm (no error bars given here).
On the same rim the Michelin Krylion Carbon 700x25c (bought in 2010) and the Michelin Optimum Pro 700x25c (bought in 2010) measure 26.5 mm, respectively.
On the same rim the Vittoria Pro Slick 700x25c (bought in 2009) measures 26mm.
By the way: the width from tyre bead to tyre bead is 65 mm for the Vittoria Pave Evo 700x24c, and it is 70 mm for the Michelin Krylion 700x25c.
Haven't had a chance to test it. However, to be honest I do not think they will last long. There is way more rubber on the Michelin Krylion. And the inside area of the Vittoria looks as if it is made out of cotton. I very much hope the Vittoria is going to disabuse my prejudice (£80 pounds are not peanuts).
PS: Mounting the tyre on to the Fulcrum Racing 5 rim was not hard nor easy either (did not had to use tyre levers). However, dismounting the Vittoria Open Pave Evo 700x24c (and the Michelin Krylion and Optimum) from the Fulcrum racing 5 rim without tyre levers is impossible (although not hard either with good plastic tyre levers).
Well the Open Pave is a high end "race tire", even though it was designed for spring classics it's still a high end racing tire. The Michelin Krylion was designed as a long wearing training tire. Your comapring two different things. I have used the 24mm Open Paves for the last 3 seasons on the rain bike/ b bike/ spring bike, exspensive well yes, but they ride quite well have tons of euro coolness when mounted to 32 spoke 3 cross wheels on a steel frame and have held up well enough for the cost.
Well the Open Pave is a high end "race tire", even though it was designed for spring classics it's still a high end racing tire. The Michelin Krylion was designed as a long wearing training tire. Your comapring two different things. I have used the 24mm Open Paves for the last 3 seasons on the rain bike/ b bike/ spring bike, exspensive well yes, but they ride quite well have tons of euro coolness when mounted to 32 spoke 3 cross wheels on a steel frame and have held up well enough for the cost.
Please could you be more specific as to what miles you got out of the Vittorias. Prior to ordering the tyre I researched estimates between 3000 to 8000 km for the rear tyre.
I got 5000 km from the Michelin Optimum Pro (240gr rear, 215 gr front) and have used the Krylions over the past 2000 km on winter roads (and they look like new).
Funny, I was measuring tires last night. My Open Pave CGs on Kinlin xr270s are right at 24.5 -- I think the xr270 is an 18 mm rim outside-outside (I didn't take the tire off to measure the ID of the rim).
What got me measuring was that a brand new Rubino Pro 28mm tire measured 25 mm on my Neuvation M28s -- exactly the same as a Rubino Pro 25mm on the same rim! Looks like the tire is just higher rather than wider on that rim....
I have about 1500 mi on my Open Paves, and I'll likely swap them out soon -- wore off the green tread on the back, and the front file tread is starting to go. But I am 220 (um) lbs. I do love the ride of them w/Michelin latex tubes -- once I got on them last summer I never took them off my main wheels. Ran them at 100 PSI fr/ 105 PSI rear.
Please could you be more specific as to what miles you got out of the Vittorias. Prior to ordering the tyre I researched estimates between 3000 to 8000 km for the rear tyre.
I got 5000 km from the Michelin Optimum Pro (240gr rear, 215 gr front) and have used the Krylions over the past 2000 km on winter roads (and they look like new).
Over the last few years I get about 2500 miles on a rear Open Pave tire. I dont run tires until the threads are showing but I get them pretty thin. I weigh about 150 lbs and ride on decent roads, but use the tires mainly in the spring and fall and some during the summer. I swear they wear faster during the summer when it's hot but all that could be in my head. FWIW I usually get about 2000 miles on a Vittoria Open Corsa cx rear, as those tires have graced the summer bike for the past few seasons.
IMO the Open Pave tires have a much better road "feel" than alot of other tires I have run in the past and speed wise I think they are even faster than most high end road clinchers I have used in the past (Mich Pro 3, Conti 4000, Vred tri comps). The only tire they don't stack up to on a summer hammer fest ride is a Vittoria Open Corsa, but Open Corsa's are made by beautiful naked women with the tears of magical unicorns so that's understandable.
Funny, I was measuring tires last night. My Open Pave CGs on Kinlin xr270s are right at 24.5 -- I think the xr270 is an 18 mm rim outside-outside (I didn't take the tire off to measure the ID of the rim).
What got me measuring was that a brand new Rubino Pro 28mm tire measured 25 mm on my Neuvation M28s -- exactly the same as a Rubino Pro 25mm on the same rim! Looks like the tire is just higher rather than wider on that rim....
I have about 1500 mi on my Open Paves, and I'll likely swap them out soon -- wore off the green tread on the back, and the front file tread is starting to go. But I am 220 (um) lbs. I do love the ride of them w/Michelin latex tubes -- once I got on them last summer I never took them off my main wheels. Ran them at 100 PSI fr/ 105 PSI rear.
I think the Kinlin xr270 features an inner rim width of 13.8mm. I do not know how accurate these information might me. I short listed the SRAM S27 wheelset couple of weeks back. However, I ended up with Fulcrum Racing 5 because the Fulcrum have 15 mm inner rim width (which is true) and my research revealed that the SRAM is an alleged Kinlin rim (the official SRAM spec is 622x13c, 13mm therefore). The outside rim of the Fulcrums are 21 mm.
I am used to run 25 mm tyres on my road bike (Scottish roads are bad) and the rule of thumb is: use a max tyre (in terms of tyre safety measures) about 2 times the inner rim width.
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