2008 Madone?

[GrahamWeigh]

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

[bikeboy389]

Originally Posted by GrahamWeigh

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

I don't know anything about the rest of what you say, but I'd take issue with the idea that Giant is "not too well respected." They make really good bikes. Yeah, they dip well into the budget lines, which some people might look down on, but so does Trek. Seems to me that people still hold it against Giant that they got their foot in the door in the US with budget bikes, even though their top bikes are excellent quality.

[benInMA]

It's tough to figure out what is real and what is not real when it comes to Trek rumors.

My impression is the Madones are all still made in the US.

However they may be sourcing Carbon Fiber from Taiwan, and/or getting fully formed CF tubes from Taiwan, and/or getting formed CF seatstays from Taiwan, etc..

For a lot of the lower end bikes, beach cruisers, mountain bikes, etc.. they have apparently sent a lot of the work overseas.

Serotta claims to be the only company left in the US that is building it's CF components 100% in the US. And it would certainly seem to have an effect on their prices.

[footballcat]

treks madone is built in waterloo wisconsin. Trek has a new bike coming out, but ive only seen a few pics. I doubt it would be made by giant. And they did away with the hump why would they bring it back, i say mr ufbro's site is a hoax

[GrahamWeigh]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36854915@N00/513856831/

[GrahamWeigh]

Check this......
http://bicycledesign.blogspot.com/20...pact-trek.html

[Chase15.5]

and now for the photo shopped trek/giant le

[OnTheRivet]

Originally Posted by GrahamWeigh

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

Hmmm, Giant's carbon production division C-Tech has been doing carbon frames for about as long as anyone an do it at a very hight level. In fact after much research they are who Ernesto Colnago chose to do his outsourced carbon frames.

[Mr. Jones]

Originally Posted by benInMA

Serotta claims to be the only company left in the US that is building it's CF components 100% in the US. And it would certainly seem to have an effect on their prices.

What foreign nations do Parlee and Temple rely on?

[tellico climber]

Originally Posted by GrahamWeigh

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

None of Treks high end bikes are made in Asia, the only carbon bikes they make in Asia is the TCT carbon found only on their lower end carbon bikes. Giant definately does not make any high end bikes for Trek, I doubt they do even on low end bikes but I am not sure. Maybe some of their low end bikes share the same factory, not sure. Some people I believe just like to spread BS rumors. I am not talking about anyone on this thread.

[SantaCruz]

I thought I recently read that the Giant carbon factory was dedicated only to creating Giant labeled frames. But when the 2 biggest names in the bike biz want to work together both have to "win". Presumably Trek would get a lower manufacturing cost and presumably Giant would gain from more volume.

If they collaborate on design, now and in the future; presumably both get design benefits or lower design costs. The latter being of higher importance to corporate shareholders.

I still prefer giving my $$$ to the smaller builders.

[WhiskeyNovember]

Originally Posted by SantaCruz

I still prefer giving my $$$ to the smaller builders.

Just out of curiosity.....why?

[Big S & Giant Hater]

I have the REAL spy photos of the new Trek. No crappy photoshop here.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by SPECIALIZED & GIANT SUCK

I have the REAL spy photos of the new Trek. No crappy photoshop here.

Duuude, those pics are supposed to be secret! You could lose your seat on the mother ship if you get caught posting those.

[teoteoteo]

Originally Posted by GrahamWeigh

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

This bike was already on another thread after the Disco team camp in December. Years ago Trek engineers and Prez John Burke flew to Austin to show Lance a new prototype bike. It was a compact that was to be a departure from the 5900 Superlight traditional geometry he was riding. Problem was he didn't like it, so it was scrapped. What ended up being built was the Madone that he was willing to ride.

Trek simply wasn't going to pursue a bike that Lance would not ride. Now that he is gone and carbon keeps advancing there is no reason to believe that they wouldn't try to use that design. Eki was riding because the first design was built for Lance and their equipment was always pretty close in size. In fact Lance's proto "narrow bike" TT bike ended up with Eki after Lance gave up on it.

[WhiskeyNovember]

Originally Posted by SPECIALIZED & GIANT SUCK

I have the REAL spy photos of the new Trek. No crappy photoshop here.

I love that B-dot logo stem....

[coinstar2k]

First off, you forgot to photoshop over the time logo on the crank and seatstay. Giant makes good bikes for several bike companies. Trek will move to Asia sooner or later. I wouldn't assume that is a bad thing. Asian companies are making awesome bikes.

Brian
TheRoadBike.com

[estone2]

Originally Posted by SPECIALIZED & GIANT SUCK

I have the REAL spy photos of the new Trek. No crappy photoshop here.

you fail. chainstays and cranks.
(laughing my a$$ off)

[WhiskeyNovember]

Originally Posted by coinstar2k

First off, you forgot to photoshop over the time logo on the crank and seatstay.

Originally Posted by estone2

you fail. chainstays and cranks.

Actually, I think he's on to something. What we're looking at may be evidence that Trek has bought Time.... ;)

[Big S & Giant Hater]

Thanks for taking all this in good humor guys. My buddies and I have been dying here at work all day.

Trek will never make their high end in Asia like those other CRAP companies. Boonen won't even ride a Specialized. He had an aluminum frame welded by Dario Pegoretti for Roubaix.

What's my name?!?! HA HA HA

[OnTheRivet]

Originally Posted by SPECIALIZED & GIANT SUCK

Thanks for taking all this in good humor guys. My buddies and I have been dying here at work all day.

Trek will never make their high end in Asia like those other CRAP companies. Boonen won't even ride a Specialized. He had an aluminum frame welded by Dario Pegoretti for Roubaix.

What's my name?!?! HA HA HA

Your sniffing glue. Boonens Roubaix frame was an Specialized E4. The tubeset is very distinctive, not anything Pegoretti works with.

[trekman1]

No - I am an insider at Trek. The 2008 Madone is still hand crafted in the good old USA, and the carbon fiber used in the manufacture is sourced in the USA. The bike rocks

[footballcat]

its coming soon

[fabsroman]

Never say never. I never thought Colnago would source some of their frame work to Taiwan. I bought one of their aluminum frames made in Taiwan and now I am debating whether the thing is as stiff as my carbon fiber Colnago made in Italy.

Trek might very well out source its bike building at some point. It all comes down to profit. Me, I think I am going to scrap my Taiwanese built Colnago and buy an Italian Colnago frame in its place.

[TrekIL]

Originally Posted by GrahamWeigh

Anybody know what the deal is with the new Madone that some of the Team Discovery riders have been on? I heard many of the guys won't ride it because the frame wasn't designed to work with an SRM? Is that True?

The guy at my local shop told me that Trek has moved much if not all of its high-end carbon bike production to the Giant bicycle factory in Asia. I guess all high-end bikes used to be made in their main Wisconsin factory, but they've moved all the production to Asia? What's up with that? Now that Lance is gone, they go and ship production off to another--and not too well respected--bike company? The bike sure looks like a Giant.

Does anyone know if the new Madone is any good? I love my old one. Well, it's a 2005 bike, so it's not too old.

Check out UF-BRO http://veloz.vox.com

Trek just released their new Madone on Thursday night and it looks awesome. There is crazy technology in this new frame and it is light and stiff. Check it out... http://www2.trekbikes.com/madone/


On your other question. No Madone is made over seas!!! All OCLV bikes are made by Trek in Waterloo, WI. They only make one road bike that has an overseas frame the 5000.