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    Quote Originally Posted by Cni2i View Post
    Thanks! I believe it's the same OSBB as with the "SL5". Have you read that they changed it? The price for the Ultralight Frameset is $4250. I was only able to get 10% off that and of course, a free Pro Bike Build with new cables and housing. I was debating whether to wait a bit or not, as I still enjoy my "SL5"...but my impression was that Spesh was only going to release limited amounts of the UL Frame sets. Not sure if that's just a publicity stunt or not...but I decided to go for it.
    Can't believe you got 10% off the new frameset. The lbs that I go to won't budget.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Merc View Post
    Can't believe you got 10% off the new frameset. The lbs that I go to won't budget.


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    Have you purchased many bikes from them in the past? I purchased 4 other SWs from them in the past. 3 Tarmacs and one Venge. But yeah, I saw a concept store in Australia selling frame set for $5000! Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cni2i View Post
    Have you purchased many bikes from them in the past? I purchased 4 other SWs from them in the past. 3 Tarmacs and one Venge. But yeah, I saw a concept store in Australia selling frame set for $5000! Crazy.
    Yeah, I've bought probably 7 (3 SW Tarmacs, 1 SW Venge, 1 SW Venge ViAS and a Moots Vamoots RSL and a Crux). through them over the past 5 years or so. The average price of those were $$$$. Guess I need to negotiate better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Merc View Post
    Yeah, I've bought probably 7 (3 SW Tarmacs, 1 SW Venge, 1 SW Venge ViAS and a Moots Vamoots RSL and a Crux). through them over the past 5 years or so. The average price of those were $$$$. Guess I need to negotiate better.


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    Wow Merc. For sure. You r such a good client there. Can't believe they won't extend a disc! Bummer.


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    Specialized has a very strickt pricing mechanism in which discounts are not allowed, with the risk of loosing dealership. Your shop can, of course, give you discounts in other ways: fitting, free parts, etcetera. It's up to them... and to you 🤙


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    One sure way to get a super discount is to work on the owners cars. I pay no more that 10% above cost on anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Butcher View Post
    One sure way to get a super discount is to work on the owners cars. I pay no more that 10% above cost on anything.
    You pay for it, just in another way.
    Repairing European cars is harder than figuring out how the pyramids were built without alien intervention.

    All said, I am a big fan of the barter system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Butcher View Post
    One sure way to get a super discount is to work on the owners cars. I pay no more that 10% above cost on anything.
    Or join the bike shop team. My friend owns a shop and the cost of joining his CX or Tri 'team' is buying $100+ worth of kit. So I race CX, which is fun as hell anyway, wearing his shop kit and get 20% off all Spesh stuff.

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    https://cyclemaniacdotcom.files.word...7/img_1842.jpg

    Had a chance today to visit the Specialized Popupstore Düsseldorf, special store for the Tour de France start. They had 3 Tarmac 2018 in the store. Made some pictures. Yes: the Ultra Light has Silver lettering. No: there was no information on whether the bikes will be sold as they were presented there (they were all with the Powercranks. I heard in one of the videos that they will be sold without). Hope you enjoy the pictures. Bikes looked very clean and light. Less aggressive now the top tube is no longer like a bow (not sure how to explain it).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoud View Post
    https://cyclemaniacdotcom.files.word...7/img_1842.jpg

    Had a chance today to visit the Specialized Popupstore Düsseldorf, special store for the Tour de France start. They had 3 Tarmac 2018 in the store. Made some pictures. Yes: the Ultra Light has Silver lettering. No: there was no information on whether the bikes will be sold as they were presented there (they were all with the Powercranks. I heard in one of the videos that they will be sold without). Bikes looked very clean and light. Less aggressive now the top tube is no longer like a bow (not sure how to explain it).

    https://cyclemaniacdotcom.files.word...7/img_1842.jpg]

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    Hmmm, not allowed to link to my blog with the pictures. Again, maybe this helps?

    cyclemaniacdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/img_1842.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoud View Post
    Hmmm, not allowed to link to my blog with the pictures. Again, maybe this helps?

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    Bummer. Love to see the pictures! Glad to know that you confirmed the silver lettering. Just want to make sure I get the actual UL version. Lol.


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    cyclemaniacdotcom.wordpress.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoud View Post
    cyclemaniacdotcom.wordpress.com/

    Copy this and you get my bog where you can choose the post on the Tarmac.,

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    I see that the brakes are direct mount. I'm thinking about getting the frameset and wondering which brakes to put on it. Any thoughts? Was thinking about putting SRAM Red groupset on but don't think they have a direct mount brake? Also saw that Specialized are partnering with EE Cycleworks for their brakes but the pricing on these is nosebleed stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester45 View Post
    I see that the brakes are direct mount. I'm thinking about getting the frameset and wondering which brakes to put on it. Any thoughts? Was thinking about putting SRAM Red groupset on but don't think they have a direct mount brake? Also saw that Specialized are partnering with EE Cycleworks for their brakes but the pricing on these is nosebleed stuff.
    Shimano Dura Ace direct mount. Great review.


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    EE direct mount
    PO has ruined this Forum

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    Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. The DA seemed the way to go, hard to justify the EE ones at the much higher price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester45 View Post
    Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback. The DA seemed the way to go, hard to justify the EE ones at the much higher price.
    Yes. I am torn. Have ee brakes on my current two bikes but single bolt. UL frame on order and debating which way to go too. But hard to pass up on the DA as they seem to perform really well and much less $$$ than ee. And I am already running DA group set.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mile2424 View Post
    Not just the paint, the proportions look way different. Dan Martin's is probably a 52 or something and just looks squished and un-proportional to me. Of course the features look the same, but the junctions and tube sizes seem to flow better to me on the Sagan.
    The thing holding DM's bike back are the wheels. So his bike should have smaller wheels right?
    LMAO

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    Today I had the chance to ride the SL 6 SW with DA at the Specialized test days in at Specialized Europe. To keep it short and simple: what a bike! Very impressed about the power output and the ease of cornering. Love my Sl4, liked my Sl5 (less tan the 4, by the way), but this felt in a league of its own. Even when the bike was a bit short and high (wanted to have the bar lower and stem 2cm longer) I felt very much at home on the bike. Bike came with the new saddle.

    Pictures and story (in Dutch...) will follow on my blog cyclemaniacdotcom.wordpress.com/

    Als with some other pictures of bikes and stuff of today.


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    Any thoughts on why you may like your SL5 less than your SL4?
    Isn't the SL5 supposed to better match ride and handling to frame size?
    I thought the SL5 was a step up from the SL4?

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    I ride a 54cm. Not so much ride first difference there. The Sl4 somehow feels better out of the saddle. Standing up, making speed up a small climb, pushing the bars from left to right, getting maximum power out of it. Never any proof on wattage, best times, or whatever. Just a feeling. I have used the same bars and wheels so that should not make a difference. I never have any need of a softer bike or more comfortable bike, also with 5+ hours rides.


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    I wonder how many thousands of dollars Specialized threw out the window working with McLaren on "rider first engineering" in development of the Tarmac SL5 according to your anecdotal report?...lol

    https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ri...rst-engineered

    Quote Originally Posted by Arnoud View Post
    I ride a 54cm. Not so much ride first difference there. The Sl4 somehow feels better out of the saddle. Standing up, making speed up a small climb, pushing the bars from left to right, getting maximum power out of it. Never any proof on wattage, best times, or whatever. Just a feeling. I have used the same bars and wheels so that should not make a difference. I never have any need of a softer bike or more comfortable bike, also with 5+ hours rides.


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    For bigger and smaller sizes it may very well work. For the "average" sizes 54 and 56 the differences were said to be smaller, is as I understand and it work.


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