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    300mm spokes any use ?

    My LBS has a huge old stock of nice Wheelsmith DB15 which can be had at a very attractive price.

    Not surprsingly as it seems this length is just about obsolete, or am I missing something? I know we built 4-cross patterns on the low profile rims of the 80s with similar spokes, but today ???

    And no Phill Wood machine in the vicinity either , sadly.

    Is a 4 cross practical on a small flange front hub?

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    They work 32-3X with many low-profile tubular rims out there.

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    It seems like DB15s (1.8/1.55mm) have sort of fallen out of favor, anyway, with Revolutions (2.0/1.5mm) or CX Rays being more popular choices for light spokes, and with stronger elbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallzboater
    It seems like DB15s (1.8/1.55mm) have sort of fallen out of favor, anyway, with Revolutions (2.0/1.5mm) or CX Rays being more popular choices for light spokes, and with stronger elbows.
    A pity.

    The DH guys where I live have used them with excellent results, for years. I found them excellent and durable (OK, over a whole 2500 miles so far )and easy to build with to boot. Small diameter, low-friction thread.

    I am sure the elbows are just fine - but yes maybe this is spoke for the lighter, higher-spoke-count end of the wheel spectrum. If component manufacturers would use sensible hub drilling instead of 2.6mm these spokes would work as well as any.

    The pricing of Revolutions over here has simply degraded into a snob-cult-thing. Not even speaking about CX-rays.

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    Classic Tubulars ~300mm

    Yep, classic box section tubulars should be about 300. I just built a pair of DA7700 hubs with some NOS polished silver FiR rims. Neo-classics, so pretty. Here's the front:


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    Quote Originally Posted by orange_bikes
    Yep, classic box section tubulars should be about 300. I just built a pair of DA7700 hubs with some NOS polished silver FiR rims. Neo-classics, so pretty. Here's the front:
    Great looking!
    Yep, those spokes sure are long

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    302 and 298 are common sizes.

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