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    Clincher rim review

    Ergott and myself have been working on a review of alloy clincher rims. We were just waiting to get the final production version of the SL23 to confirm the specs before publishing it. Now that the SL23 is available in the U.S. we have put the review up. I hope some of you find it useful.

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    Great post. I liked Erics point about the A23s. That bugs the hell outta me too!

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    Clincher rim review

    Very nice review and consistent with the review quality put out by Fairwheel. The Pacenti has caught my eye; I am wondering if you have noticed the signs of any "bulging" around the spoke bedding when tensioning the DS spokes. I am told of this happening on their box section PL rims although the SL shape is less prone for this to happen.

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    Thumbs up

    Once again, you guys have shown your love for wheel building by gathering and comparing all this data for us. It is great to hear your thoughts. Thanks for the reviews.

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    That was interesting. Many thanks.
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    How safe is it to fit 23mm clincher tires on rims with internal width as wide as 19mm (according to bikerumor) like on the Pancetta SL23?

    I have a fear that the tire will unbead under hard cornering. Am I more worried than I should be?

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    You shouldn't think twice about it. I am running 23mm Vittoria Rubino Pro Slick 3 on a set of Xero Lite wheels with internal width of 19mm. I have no issue with it. Easy on, easy off.
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    Thanks a lot. I love it when you guys do roundups.

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    This is really great info.
    I am not sure I buy into the wide rim hype.
    I may build a front wheel up with a wide rim to prove it to myself.
    In order to keep weight down as the rim gets wider, material has to be sacrificed somewhere and I think that results in poor braking and durability.
    I currently use Velocity Aerohead on my road bike and Fusions on my tandem.
    Both rims are as light or lighter than similar rims listed above and have been very durable and have good braking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAADEL View Post
    I have a fear that the tire will unbead under hard cornering. Am I more worried than I should be?
    I'm not worried. I know a guy who runs 20mm tires on the Heds. I use 23mm road tires to seat the tape on 29mm wide MTB tires. The tire looks fine on there, but I wouldn't recommend going that extreme.

    Do you have a reference that gives you reason for fearing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnbrown View Post
    I am not sure I buy into the wide rim hype.
    There is a lot of hype. Improved aero for a rim like the SL23 should be real though, and any of them will give better cornering feel, especially at low pressures.

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    I have heard that the BHS C472 is made by Kinlin. Is is the same as the XC 279?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rruff View Post
    Do you have a reference that gives you reason for fearing it?
    All I've read is from Sheldon's Tire Sizing Systems and according to their chart a 28mm tire is the minimum width for a 19mm rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazdag View Post
    I have heard that the BHS C472 is made by Kinlin. Is is the same as the XC 279?
    Yes it's the same rim

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAADEL View Post
    All I've read is from Sheldon's Tire Sizing Systems and according to their chart a 28mm tire is the minimum width for a 19mm rim.
    Keep in mind that's inner dimensions, not outer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergott View Post
    Keep in mind that's inner dimensions, not outer.
    I know it's about inner width. That's why I'm worried about fitting narrow tires on extremely wide rims.

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    From you link.

    "Note: This chart may err a bit on the side of caution. Many cyclists exceed the recommended widths with no problem."

    Brown seemed more concerned with wider tires on narrower rim in that article. There are so many riders out there on 23mm tires using 23mm (external) rims and I haven't heard of a single issue myself.

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    Enve 6.7 rims are 26/24mm outside, there are tons of other HED, Zipp, Kinlin that are all 23mm+. If there was an issue, I am fairly certain we would know about it by now. These are not the first 23mm+ rims and there is no reason these rims would act differently then all of these other rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rruff View Post
    There is a lot of hype. Improved aero for a rim like the SL23 should be real though, and any of them will give better cornering feel, especially at low pressures.
    I'm interested to see if this is true. The 279s that I'm on now feel a bit slicker in the wind than my 270s, and it sounds like these Pacentis may be even more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen Cyclery View Post
    I'm interested to see if this is true. The 279s that I'm on now feel a bit slicker in the wind than my 270s, and it sounds like these Pacentis may be even more so.
    I have made the same comparison (279s versus 270s) and the wider rim does feel quicker due to being more aero. Also corners better.

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    Clincher rim review

    I recently received a pair of Stan's 340's laced to king hubs. They are a low spoke count 20/24 with Dt competition spokes and alloy nipples. After reading some reviews and post I feel like these wheel might be to soft/weak for me. I'm 180lb guy and tend to push bigger gears.
    I was thinking of picking up a pair of DT585 rims and swapping them out for the Stan's. What do you guys think about the 585's? Weight isn't a huge concern. I just want a nice stiff reliable wheel set.

    Thanks

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    Great read, thanks for posting it. Next up, hubs roundup?
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    Clincher rim review

    Quote Originally Posted by demonrider View Post
    Great read, thanks for posting it. Next up, hubs roundup?
    They have already done one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmorgan View Post
    Aah, I should have looked around the site a bit more... Now if they'd update it for 2013 by adding hubs that are much lower priced than $300 like those from BHS and Novatec, it'd be truly complete.
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    Clincher rim review

    Quote Originally Posted by demonrider View Post
    Aah, I should have looked around the site a bit more... Now if they'd update it for 2013 by adding hubs that are much lower priced than $300 like those from BHS and Novatec, it'd be truly complete.
    They do not sell those cheap hubs, why would they go out of their way to review something they don't carry. If you want cheap hubs go with cheap hubs if you are looking for quality hubs look at their review. No one would put BHS and novatec in the same league as Alchemy or Chris King. Their review for the cheap hubs would probably read something like "they are cheap, cheap price, cheaply made, you get what you pay for".
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