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    DT Aerolite Race vs Sapim CX Rays

    Besides the fact that DT Aerolites cost more and comes in white is there any difference between the two?

    I am considering Stans ZTR 340 with Extralight hubs.

    thanks in adviance!

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    I understand that the CX-Ray will be available in white soon, if it already isn't.

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    I have wheels built with both. Same hub, spoke count,crosses, rim......only difference is the spokes. I can't tell any difference between the two.

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    The main difference is that the aerolites are much more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomH View Post
    The main difference is that the aerolites are much more expensive.
    Didn't use to be, and haven't improved since then....
    Or has it? Does it actually look more polished now....As the CX rays?

    'Nother thing..Treads and nipples are way smoother on Sapims.
    That, on the other hand, used to be the other way around.

    And there's the heads and sholders.
    One has a preferable head (tapering) the other the shoulder

    I buy all my spokes from Sapim...Except the titanium ones.

    I find their assortment better. DT do not have a slightly stronger spoke than aerolite
    Well OK...They do, but un-butted, and sapims 1.8 (Race)has a longer butted section
    than DTs competition and therefore lighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBH1973 View Post
    I understand that the CX-Ray will be available in white soon, if it already isn't.
    They are available.
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    Both are a waste of money when comapred to Lasers or Revolutions.

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    Not at all a waste of money if one are aiming for an aerodynamic set of wheels.

    Looking at the total cost of a good set, lacing up with CX rays really don't that much to it.
    It's not all about Ultegra and Open Pro......

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    "It's not all about Ultegra and Open Pro......" or "32 and 3 cross." A man after my own heart when it comes to bike wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lectron View Post
    Not at all a waste of money if one are aiming for an aerodynamic set of wheels.
    Do you really think the minimal difference in frontal area of a CX ray or Aerolite is going to make a hill of beans difference on a 18/20 spoke wheel? Not only that once you get any side wind that small benefit turns into more drag. CX-rays and Aerolites are the epitome of marketing horseshlt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRivet View Post
    Not only that once you get any side wind that small benefit turns into more drag.
    Could you please back that statement up with something substantial?

    -Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRivet View Post
    Do you really think the minimal difference in frontal area of a CX ray or Aerolite is going to make a hill of beans difference on a 18/20 spoke wheel? Not only that once you get any side wind that small benefit turns into more drag. CX-rays and Aerolites are the epitome of marketing horseshlt.
    While this is very true for a majority of the cycling community, there is a reason that we don't fire musket balls anymore out of guns...it not just about the frontal area...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRivet View Post
    Do you really think the minimal difference in frontal area of a CX ray or Aerolite is going to make a hill of beans difference on a 18/20 spoke wheel? Not only that once you get any side wind that small benefit turns into more drag. CX-rays and Aerolites are the epitome of marketing horseshlt.
    Given the CX rays wake being a third of a revolution, I do believe it does make a small
    difference. Yes I do. And also. Why ride a 18/20 flimsy revo when you can do much
    better with a 32/24 CX ray?

    The question is more.....Do YOU find it worth it?
    Obviously you do not, but that doesn't mean another person does not value a faster set of wheels

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    Ok so I'm going to get back to the OP. Both spokes are made from the same material and are exact the same shape, .9mm wide and 2.3mm across. They are both made by some of the most reputable manufacturers in the business and have been built into countless sets of wheels by dozens of companies (Sapims are used in Zipp's builds). Although the Aerolites are more well known I attest that there are absolutely no measurable differences between them. I would get whichever ones you can find for less and I would be willing to bet that that would be the Sapims. If you do decide to get the Sapims you can order them direct from Alchemy Bicycle works and they can supply you with the exact lengths and quantities you need at a fair price. Additionally if you decide to go with a round spoke such as a Laser you can also get them from Sara and Jeremy at Alchemy.

    The bottom line on spokes. DT, Wheelsmith, and Sapim all make top notch products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergott View Post
    Could you please back that statement up with something substantial?

    -Eric
    Why, Sapim doesn't? The only real testing done was the ZIPP test from years ago and they used 14/15's against CX Rays, hardly a fair comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRivet View Post
    Why, Sapim doesn't? The only real testing done was the ZIPP test from years ago and they used 14/15's against CX Rays, hardly a fair comparison.
    The difference is you make a flat out false statement that has no basis on fact.

    -Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheRivet View Post
    Do you really think the minimal difference in frontal area of a CX ray or Aerolite is going to make a hill of beans difference on a 18/20 spoke wheel? Not only that once you get any side wind that small benefit turns into more drag. CX-rays and Aerolites are the epitome of marketing horseshlt.
    The spoke drag on the bladed part is 1/3rd as high... and this type of oval has a high angle of attack capability... ie don't worry about cross winds making it worse, although you will feel some side force.

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