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    Mavic Tires?

    Mavic sells their wheels with tires included and I'm curious if anyone has some experience with them. Any good? Comparable to Conti GP 4000s II tires?

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    I somehow doubt it. Mavic wheels are over priced marketed hype -- why would their tires be any different? Of course they have to have some silly name that rhymes with Ksyrium. Who thinks of this cr@p?

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    Mavic has tires made by Hutchinson for the last few years at least, but I remember hearing that they were before this as well. I have only used the Aksion tires, and they're OK, I guess, for 60TPI tires. They felt better than Zaffiro Pros, but have less rubber and way, way less flat protection. Faster? IDK, IDI.

    You may also find information here, Glory Cycles Product Reviews: Mavic Tire Review - Yksion Powerlink and Griplink , but I googled that, and so would have anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    I somehow doubt it. Mavic wheels are over priced marketed hype -- why would their tires be any different? Of course they have to have some silly name that rhymes with Ksyrium. Who thinks of this cr@p?
    I guess every brand will have their haters, but Mavic has been around a longtime and their wheels get good reviews. Also, many who ride them seem to really like them. I doubt they're crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    I guess every brand will have their haters, .
    I ain't the only one around here ...

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    Nothing wrong with Mavic stuff.... if you ignore the price. Inevitably, most of us can't do that. You can always get equal or better stuff than Mavic for considerably less money.

    I had some of those Yksion tires. They were fine. If someone gave them to me, I'd use them again. But they're no GP 4000s. Which if it were my money, that's what I buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    Nothing wrong with Mavic stuff.... if you ignore the price. Inevitably, most of us can't do that. You can always get equal or better stuff than Mavic for considerably less money.

    I had some of those Yksion tires. They were fine. If someone gave them to me, I'd use them again. But they're no GP 4000s. Which if it were my money, that's what I buy.
    Thanks, that's what I suspected.

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    Vittoria Corsa G+ -- best tire I've ever ridden, and I'm someone who usually doesn't feel a big difference in tires. They're way nicer than the Conti 4000s I was riding. Ribble has them for $38, which is a good price. I'd pay twice that for them if I had to.

    https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/vitto...yre/#pid=30363

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    Don't they only make 23mm? If so that rules them out being good or preferred choice for a lot of people. Probably the vast majority now-a-days.

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    Ribble lists 23 and 25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Don't they only make 23mm? If so that rules them out being good or preferred choice for a lot of people. Probably the vast majority now-a-days.
    Corsa G+ are available in 23, 25 and 28 mm. Excel sports is where I go.

    The corsa speed are the ones only available in 23 mm. Vittoria are expected to come out with a 25 mm in march.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    Vittoria Corsa G+ -- best tire I've ever ridden, and I'm someone who usually doesn't feel a big difference in tires. They're way nicer than the Conti 4000s I was riding. Ribble has them for $38, which is a good price. I'd pay twice that for them if I had to.

    https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/vitto...yre/#pid=30363
    I tried those last summer and didn't care for them. The rode nice, but felt really sluggish. I tried different pressures but they were slow. Just my experience. I went back to the Contis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    The rode nice, but felt really sluggish.
    Feelings don't count for much. How were they against the clock? I used to ride weekly 10 mile (16 km) time trials from May through September, and so collected years of experience on the effect of tires on TT speeds. I remember one tire that felt pretty squishy, but guess what: zero effect on speed.

    If we took up a collection for every time someone "felt" the effect of one component or another, this site could be provided free with zero advertising. We all own timing devices, so the answer when something "feels" faster or slower is to put it against the clock. Facts trump feelings every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    Feelings don't count for much. How were they against the clock? I used to ride weekly 10 mile (16 km) time trials from May through September, and so collected years of experience on the effect of tires on TT speeds. I remember one tire that felt pretty squishy, but guess what: zero effect on speed.

    If we took up a collection for every time someone "felt" the effect of one component or another, this site could be provided free with zero advertising. We all own timing devices, so the answer when something "feels" faster or slower is to put it against the clock. Facts trump feelings every time.
    My average speeds increased when I switched back to the Contis. It wasn't just my feelings, trust me. For whatever reason, the Vittorias didn't work for me. Which is a shame since the ride was pretty supple and handling was grippy and sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    I guess every brand will have their haters, but Mavic has been around a longtime and their wheels get good reviews. Also, many who ride them seem to really like them. I doubt they're crap.
    You my want to read some of these reviews below and then rethink what you just said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    You my want to read some of these reviews below and then rethink what you just said:

    wheelsets - clincher Reviews - RoadbikeReview.com
    Yeah, lots of good reviews there, really. But the sample size is small. The reviews I was referring to are the pro reviews where Mavics are given high marks. Like this one:

    Mavic Ksyrium Pro Carbon SL C wheels | VeloNews.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    Yeah, lots of good reviews there, really. But the sample size is small. The reviews I was referring to are the pro reviews where Mavics are given high marks. Like this one:

    Mavic Ksyrium Pro Carbon SL C wheels | VeloNews.com
    This is a new product review. Performance wise, there is no reason to believe these won't be good........until something goes wrong.

    The wheels you specifically mention aren't listed on RBR user reviews. However, if you look at plenty of the other Mavic wheels with large review samples, you will see there is much to be desired.

    For the money and long term reliability, there are much better choices than Mavic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    This is a new product review. Performance wise, there is no reason to believe these won't be good........until something goes wrong.

    The wheels you specifically mention aren't listed on RBR user reviews. However, if you look at plenty of the other Mavic wheels with large review samples, you will see there is much to be desired.

    For the money and long term reliability, there are much better choices than Mavic.
    True, but reliability isn't the reason I won't be buying Mavic. For better or worse they don't recommend using anyone's tires but their own brand. Probably just BS, but they turned me off completely with that statement. I'm still in the market for a second set of wheels, but won't be buying for a month or two, at the earliest. Until then, i can continue to obsess.

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    Consider obsessing on a set of custom built wheels made for the type of rider you are and riding that you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    Consider obsessing on a set of custom built wheels made for the type of rider you are and riding that you do.
    This.

    And even if you don't want to go the custom route, there are some nice high end wheels from Shimano that are much better than Mavic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    True, but reliability isn't the reason I won't be buying Mavic. For better or worse they don't recommend using anyone's tires but their own brand. Probably just BS......
    I can't say I've ever heard that Mavic doesn't recommend using anybody else's tires. I would say...........
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    Designed specially for front use, the Yksion Pro GripLink Tire offers maximum control and handling.

    Mavic's special "S+" added Silica rubber compound grips the road and doesn't let go, inspiring confident corning in wet or dry conditions. A grooved tread delivers exceptional traction in wet or dry conditions. A Kevlar breaker helps prevent punctures without adding extra weight, and the 127 TPI nylon casing ensures a lively ride quality.

    The Yksion Pro GripLink Tire is available in 700c x 23mm (23-622 ISO) and 700c x 25mm (25-622 ISO). Folding bead. Claimed weight: 190 grams (23mm version). Black with White logos. Mavic recommends filling the Yksion tire with the Mavic engineered bullshitium tire propellant available at participating Mavic retailers.

    Designed specifically for rear use, the Yksion Pro PowerLink Tire places speed and responsiveness first.

    The dual compound tread features a harder 70a compound on in the center of tire to minimize rolling resistance. A softer 60a compound on the shoulders increases cornering control. The grooved tread helps displace water and further traction in wet conditions. A nylon reinforced breaker helps prevent punctures without adding extra weight, and the 127 TPI nylon casing ensures a lively ride quality.

    The Yksion Pro PowerLink Tire is available in 700c x 23mm (23-622 ISO) and 700c x 25mm (25-622 ISO). Folding bead. Claimed weight: 190 grams (23mm version). Black with White logos. Mavic recommends filling the Yksion tire with the Mavic engineered bullshitium tire propellant available at participating Mavic retailers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmf View Post
    They're way nicer than the Conti 4000s I was riding.
    Way nicer if you like changing flats. This stupid grooves are a magnet for picking up thorns and what not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notvintage View Post
    Way nicer if you like changing flats. This stupid grooves are a magnet for picking up thorns and what not.
    I never flatted one out, even though I was worried about that, especially in the rain. They rode nice, too. But slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmanthree View Post
    I never flatted one out, even though I was worried about that, especially in the rain. They rode nice, too. But slow.
    Slow? Really??
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