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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    Just curious, but how did you measure "stiff."
    Are you familiar with the German Tour road cycling magazine? If you want to know how to measure wheel stiffness have look there, it's quite simple. They put on loads and measure deflections...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Irons View Post
    The reason I ask is that blind tests show that riders cannot tell the difference between laterally stiff and laterally flexy wheels based on the ride.
    Are you kidding or are you making that up?
    What kind of riders are that, some old ladies?
    I am sure every sportive cyclist is able to notice a flexy wheel. Not only on the road but also on the truing stand where I had to true my flexy WH-6700 every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas_Illesch View Post
    I am sure every sportive cyclist is able to notice a flexy wheel. Not only on the road but also on the truing stand where I had to true my flexy WH-6700 every week.
    I have dealt with wheel flexing, but it never threw the wheel out of true. If your wheels needed adjustment every week, I'm guessing you didn't correct for spoke twist when you made adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    I have dealt with wheel flexing, but it never threw the wheel out of true. If your wheels needed adjustment every week, I'm guessing you didn't correct for spoke twist when you made adjustments.
    WH-6700 have bladed spokes and even a slotted spoke key is supplied so they are very easy to correct for spoke twist.
    I am pretty sure I would notice a twisted bladed spoke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas_Illesch View Post
    WH-6700 have bladed spokes and even a slotted spoke key is supplied so they are very easy to correct for spoke twist.
    I am pretty sure I would notice a twisted bladed spoke...
    True. don't know what the problem is then. I haven't heard of this with the WH-6800 though.
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    I just received a pair of November Wheel A-Force Al 33 with Powertap G3 hub. I'm stoked for the change in weather, which is a few months out. Might give them a whirl on the trainer, but who knows about that. Have yet to hear a bad word here about November Wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleckb View Post
    Have yet to hear a bad word here about November Wheels.
    We don't hear many, do we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T. View Post
    We don't hear many, do we?
    I've only heard good things, which is why I'm hoping once I get them on the road I'll be able to sing their praises based on experience. It's always a bit of a crap shoot, but I'm confident I'll enjoy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srode View Post
    Shimano RS81 C24 would be another choice in that price range.
    the rs81's may just about be the best wheel out there for the money. if you can afford or justify it the dura ace 24's are even better. but the value proposition goes to rs81.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLas View Post
    Along those lines, I saw the Shimano Dura-Ace WH-9000-C24. Thoughts?

    been my go to wheel for close to four years. i love them, especially for climbing. been to provence, girona, french alps ,pyreenes, girona and mallorca on them and they've more than served me well.

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