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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireform View Post
    My wife is 4'9" and a few years ago we stumbled upon a Terry Tailwind in XS (43) with 650C wheels and Shimano 105. It fits her like a glove, and she has put upwards of 20k miles on it. If I could find a similar configuration in CF I would buy it in a heartbeat, but they appear to be unicorns. Every 700C CF bike I've found has too much standover height for her. I occasionally shake the internets looking for a CF upgrade, but have learned to be thankful for what we have.
    The rarity of CF bikes in very small sizes is no doubt due to they wouldn't sell very many. Carbon bikes are high end race bikes. Very few women are perceived to be that into all the latest bells and whistles and presumably are happy riding aluminum or steel bikes, like the Terry's.

    Heck, Trek should come up with a carbon ride for small women with 24 inch front wheels. That or 650 wheels! would sure be a great way to go for overall balance for a small person. I guess a 700C rear wheel would provide the same gear as standard road bikes. Does pedaling on the lower gear require more effort to keep up? Nah.

    Hold onto that Terry. Its a jewel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Carbon bikes are high end race bikes.
    A couple of points about this.

    1. I know lots of women who ride 'Carbon Fiber Race Bikes'
    2. Not all carbon bikes are 'High End Carbon Fiber Race Bikes' - see every disc road/gravel/adventure/ bike ever made - for example

    Quote Originally Posted by Frederico
    Very few women are perceived to be that into all the latest bells and whistles and presumably are happy riding aluminum or steel bikes, like the Terry's.
    Wow, really? Percieved by whom? And what does it matter? There are lots of us old fat guys riding around on 'High End Carbon Fiber Race Bikes' (that are apparently only made for men). Why not those frail, weak smaller ladies?

    C'mon Frederico, you're better than this... (aren't you?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migen21 View Post
    A couple of points about this.

    1. I know lots of women who ride 'Carbon Fiber Race Bikes'
    2. Not all carbon bikes are 'High End Carbon Fiber Race Bikes' - see every disc road/gravel/adventure/ bike ever made - for example



    Wow, really? Percieved by whom? And what does it matter? There are lots of us old fat guys riding around on 'High End Carbon Fiber Race Bikes' (that are apparently only made for men). Why not those frail, weak smaller ladies?

    C'mon Frederico, you're better than this... (aren't you?)
    Look, I'm not making a moral statement, simply offering my opinion on why carbon fiber bikes are hard to find in very small sizes that would fit women, that's all. If a manufacturer only sells a few XS sub 48 cm frames, they don't make many and are hard to find. Others have mentioned, however, carbon frames with snappy short wheel bases and slack "endurance" geometries, are being made by a number of manufacturers, i.e. Specialized Ruby, et. al. The women's market has also no doubt expanded in the last several years, too, as cycling becomes more popular.

    I smell that old "political correctness" troll! Don't use it on me! My ex and daughter are both into cycling. They're practical minded, however, and want a bike that will hold up over time and be fun to ride. Neither has the slightest interest in competition, so they wouldn't want most of what manufacturers have been offering in thier carbon fiber line ups. They wouldn't want to spend more money for the minimal gain in performance and comfort, if there is any, in small frames with slack steering angles. 71 degree head angles on smaller frames ride very comfortably in steel and aluminum as well as carbon!

    The ex is by no means "weak and frail" on her Terry. She's thrilled! My daughter isn't weak and frail riding her old Trek hybrid, either, although she's looking for a road bike for a little lighter weight. Both could care less about carbons fiber.

    If your wife enjoys competition, she'd love a carbon bike. For the two women I know and most I dealt with for 6 years in the bike shops, carbon is overkill. None were so keen on competition that they wanted the fastest, stiffest bike they could get.

    But "endurance" and "gravel" bikes changed all that, haven't they! Go for it!
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    Specialized Amira.. Ruby..
    Trek was Silque and Madone etc in WSD..

    My wife rides a 2014 Madone 6 in 47cm.. It's a nice bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    Specialized Amira.. Ruby..
    Trek was Silque and Madone etc in WSD..

    My wife rides a 2014 Madone 6 in 47cm.. It's a nice bike.


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    All of those are too tall. My wife is 4'9", hardly a midget, but bikes with 700c wheels are just too tall.


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    There is always custom.. but it will be custom but maybe you can get 650c

    Giant made some 650c 41cm OCR's for a few years...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    There is always custom.. but it will be custom but maybe you can get 650c

    Giant made some 650c 41cm OCR's for a few years...
    That's something to look for. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireform View Post
    That's something to look for. Thanks!


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    I think it had a triple crankset too.. it's 10speed so probably a few years old. But I bet someone has to have old stock or slightly used.

    ahh.. apparently 2007ish.. how time flys.
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    Well, it's aluminum anyway. We are happy with that Terry aluminum. It's a sweetheart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireform View Post
    Well, it's aluminum anyway. We are happy with that Terry aluminum. It's a sweetheart.


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    actually these Giants I speak of were carbon.. I'm 100% sure of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    actually these Giants I speak of were carbon.. I'm 100% sure of that.
    Is this not what you were referring to? It was made in 41 with 640c wheels, but it's aluminum.

    https://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us....1/1243/29268/

    When I was first shopping for a bike for her, a bike shop owner was selling a carbon fiber cannondale with 650c wheels and full Dura Ace 7800 that he had had built for his son. The son didn't like cycling so he sold the bike.

    That was a real jewel and I've never seen another like it. My wife was a beginner and it seemed like a lot to spend when I didn't know whether she would even like cycling. Today I'd grab it in a heartbeat.


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    FindingVery Small (~44cm 'ish) carbon road frames?

    2006/7 the had OCR carbon..

    Let me recheck years. I'm old


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    FindingVery Small (~44cm 'ish) carbon road frames?

    Quote Originally Posted by spdntrxi View Post
    Huh. Wonder what my odds of finding one of those in the wild? Thanks for searching it out!


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    felt used to make 650 carbon road bikes as late as 2012 I think... top tube were roughly 48-49.. don't know if that is small enough..They still make a ZW in 43.. might be borderline depending on body part lengths..

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