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    52 vs 54 super six evo ?

    Hi,

    I had a super six 54cm and I feeled good but I have a killer deal on new 52cm 2016 evo. But also deal on 54 2017

    Im 5'10'' and 32.2 '' inseam, do you think I could be ok on it.

    as i said, I ride 54 since 10 years (always cannondale)

    at the same price I can have these 2 bikes.
    the black is 2017- dura ace 2 (mechanical) with hollogram wheels in 54 (no quark powermeter)

    the other one, the team 2016 on dura ace DI2 - in 52. this is my dilema

    both the stem is low, even more o the 52, on mine, I keeped the 15mm conic spacer. with the 52 I would be 2cm lower at the front.
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    The 52 does not and will not fit you.

    You're correct in picking out the front end being the problem.

    Dropping your bars 2cm is not something to take lightly, especially with your experience.

    Maybe with a new fork you can make it work no problem, otherwise you're looking at a heavily upturned stem, nobody wants that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMsRepBike View Post
    The 52 does not and will not fit you.

    You're correct in picking out the front end being the problem.

    Dropping your bars 2cm is not something to take lightly, especially with your experience.

    Maybe with a new fork you can make it work no problem, otherwise you're looking at a heavily upturned stem, nobody wants that.
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    I think BOTH the 52 and 54 are too small for you.

    The saddle to bar drop looks ridiculous, as does the extreme length stem.

    56cm, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter P. View Post
    I think BOTH the 52 and 54 are too small for you.

    The saddle to bar drop looks ridiculous, as does the extreme length stem.

    56cm, my friend.
    No....
    54 is perfect.
    I made 2 professionals fitting.
    And my size is 54.


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    I am also 5' 10" with a 32" inseam. I take a 56. A 54 is too small for me.

    A 52 is definitely too small for you. The bike is not a "killer deal" if it doesn't fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    I am also 5' 10" with a 32" inseam. I take a 56. A 54 is too small for me.

    A 52 is definitely too small for you. The bike is not a "killer deal" if it doesn't fit.
    54 too small for you?
    Your arms and/or your trunk must be pretty long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotojs78 View Post
    54 too small for you?
    Your arms and/or your trunk must be pretty long?

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    A 54 definitely feels cramped in the cockpit for me - feels like I'm riding a clown bike. Maybe my arms are longer than yours - I take a 32-33 sleeve on a dress shirt (34-35 is too long). I doubt my trunk is longer as we are both the same height and inseam.
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    The Evo was redesigned in 2017 and changed their geometry from prior years. Their current 52 is similar to an older 54cm.
    I too am 5'10" and am currently riding a 2017 EVO size 52. However, my CAAD10 is a 54. I could ride either size 52 or 54cm, but chose the smaller to go with a slightly longer stem as my fit is on the aggressive side.

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    enough to change stem length?? between a 54 2013 vs 54 2018?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    A 54 definitely feels cramped in the cockpit for me - feels like I'm riding a clown bike. Maybe my arms are longer than yours - I take a 32-33 sleeve on a dress shirt (34-35 is too long). I doubt my trunk is longer as we are both the same height and inseam.
    The difference in reach is .6 cm. .6 cm is definitely not the difference between perfect and clown bike. No way you had the seat in the same place relative to the BB or you used a bunch of spacers to compensate for the lower headtube if .6 reach was the difference between good and clown bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    The difference in reach is .6 cm. .6 cm is definitely not the difference between perfect and clown bike. No way you had the seat in the same place relative to the BB or you used a bunch of spacers to compensate for the lower headtube if .6 reach was the difference between good and clown bike.
    You are correct on the 0.6mm difference in reach. The bikes I was comparing the difference between were the 54 and 56 Synapse where the difference in reach isn't that different than the EVO - 0.8mm.

    Needless to say, there was quite a difference in how I felt. I got on my friend's 54 and it definitely felt grossly short in the reach to me compared to my 56. Her saddle height isn't that different from mine and I felt OK there. Possibly her saddle was adjusted more forward than mine? Don't know what else to say.
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    Why does not a single measurement on the 52 or 54 bike equal 52 or 54? Cannondale sizing is kind of odd. Does it refer to effective top tube? If it does, than 54 seems pretty small for someone who is 5'10". I'm 5'9" with a 32" inseam and I ride a 56 cm traditional geometry bike. I could do a 55, but 54 would definitely be too small.

    Then again, look at most professional racers who race on bikes that seem crazy small for them to me. Hey Lombard ... maybe we're the idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    You are correct on the 0.6mm difference in reach. The bikes I was comparing the difference between were the 54 and 56 Synapse where the difference in reach isn't that different than the EVO - 0.8mm.

    Needless to say, there was quite a difference in how I felt. I got on my friend's 54 and it definitely felt grossly short in the reach to me compared to my 56. Her saddle height isn't that different from mine and I felt OK there. Possibly her saddle was adjusted more forward than mine? Don't know what else to say.
    Most likely. And/or she had a lot of spacers (reach measurement is to the top of the headtube, so adding spacers reduces effective reach because of the steerer tube angle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Most likely. And/or she had a lot of spacers (reach measurement is to the top of the headtube, so adding spacers reduces effective reach because of the steerer tube angle).
    Spacers were no different. We both have all our spacers under the stem. I actually have a slightly higher rise stem than she does and my stem might be a tad longer.
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