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    The Cinelli XCr is one pretty bike


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    yes, it is, and it costs a pretty penny also.

    i saw the frame at the NAHBS this year, and it is a gorgeous frame. I would love to have one, though I wish that Cinelli still made the Nouvo Corsa that they made a few years ago.

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    Meh. Not enough carbon.

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    Beautiful.

    At $3500 though, would have been nice to get a matching stainless fork IMO.

    Check out the sweet headbadge.


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    Then you'll really not like the fact that the MSRP is actually $4600 U.S. It's not just another carbon fork either, it was specifically designed for this frame. It is also the lightest Columbus fork to date as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocwrench
    Then you'll really not like the fact that the MSRP is actually $4600 U.S. It's not just another carbon fork either, it was specifically designed for this frame. It is also the lightest Columbus fork to date as well.
    $4600 is some change. So pretty though, must resist the bright shiney object...
    Even though I like a steel fork for a steel frame, that is one nice looking carbon fork. Good to hear they designed one just for the XCR. The lines and thinness of the carbon fork legs match the frame well.

    BTW, if anyone is a large, GVH bike has only one large XCR at $3500.

    http://www.gvhbikes.com/

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    A thread about this beauty deserves pictures...












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    More pictures...










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    Drool...

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    Strong

    Carl Strong can build you a custom XCr bike for $2800. He did one for me.

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    nice if you're into hanging bikes on the wall - otherwise an overpriced brick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesbike
    nice if you're into hanging bikes on the wall - otherwise an overpriced brick...
    That can be said for just about any expensive bike for that matter.

    Like many things in the bike biz, it's all just perceived value and whether or not it's worthy is all based on the buyer.

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    Mine shipped yeesterday

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    can Strong do bb30?
    thnx

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    You should ask him. If this is a BB shell provided by Colombus I do not see why not.

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    Very purty. If I was wealthy I would buy.

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    One more photo


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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesbike
    nice if you're into hanging bikes on the wall - otherwise an overpriced brick...
    Wow, you're the best. So....What bike are YOU riding? My XCr weighs less than 16 lbs for a steel frame, that will not corrode, has laser etched graphics,(no peeling or cracking decals) and will last way longer than whatever "disposable bike you have". How many bikes will you own over the next 20 years that I have my bike? Now what is overpriced?

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    Hmmm... not doing it for me. IMO. I was hoping to be impressed. Dang!

    It kinda looks like some kitchenware we used to have. Maybe it is better in person.

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    Don't get me wrong, it is a nice frame, but the ONLY reason why this frame is $4600 MSRP is because it in NOT CARBON. It is grossly overpriced as it is steel which is the cheapest of material (regardless if it is stainless steel).

    It is a novelty in the age of carbon and that novelty is reflected in the price. It is ridiculous. I just sold this polished Litespeed Classic with 9 Speed Dura Ace for about $1k complete. Titanium is lighter and more expensive or at least it should be. To whoever buys this, resale in a couple of years will be horrible.

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    What is ridiculous is your reply. If you actually read the article in the OP, you will see that the "Columbus XCr tubeset is THE most expensive in the world", and just won an award for materials production.

    You should consider doing at least a little research before you post, as the entire post is riddled with inaccuracies. Like your claim that the Litespeed frameset is lighter, not the case.

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    I would not call steel "the cheapest of materials". I would think carbon fiber is. Once you have a mold the actual "material" is WAY cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocwrench
    What is ridiculous is your reply. If you actually read the article in the OP, you will see that the "Columbus XCr tubeset is THE most expensive in the world", and just won an award for materials production.

    You should consider doing at least a little research before you post, as the entire post is riddled with inaccuracies. Like your claim that the Litespeed frameset is lighter, not the case.

    Lazyrider does it again. He has made a career as a buzz kill specialist by spouting BS with his off topic slams. One minor point can be taken from his post though; todays "new technology" will become yesterdays news in a few years. One other thing, the framebuilding community has taken notice that Columbus XCr and Reynolds 953 are priced like Ti, so many builders are not bothering. I've read that welding Ti is actually easier, although I have no personal experience.

    At the end of the day it's another bike frame. New materials are intriguing, and nothing wrong with stainless steel. I like it, but my personal value stream would keep me from buying any frame that costs that much.

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    LOL,
    Well, my Litespeed Classic in that picture is from 1996 and the weight of a 53cm (mine is 57cm) is 1490 grams which is only 60 grams heavier than this Cinelli made in 2009. So, as far as weight savings and 13 years later, I'd say that figure is pretty negligible.

    Plus I was referring to titanium being lighter in general as my Classic was one of their heavier frames. I owned a Vortex which was lighter and was the "Most expensive frame in the world at the time" and currently a Solano which is same weight as that Cinelli in a 53cm and costs a fraction of price. Most of the current Litespeeds are lighter than this frame.

    Like I said, it is a nice frame, but the fact that it is not carbon makes it a novelty whether you can accept that or not. Stainless steel as a material is not anything unique and like any trend, carbon is the Zeitgeist in frame material right now and any other newer material will be seen as unique and will cost a lot more. You can get a custom Seven or Serotta steel frame for a fraction of the price if you want to be on steel which makes a great bike, but the stainless part of this Cinelli makes it a ripoff.

    BTW, here is the last sentence of that article you link to

    One thing is for sure, Cinelliís XCr offers an interesting alternative to the current carbon trend thatís just as expensive, but guaranteed to be a unique addition to your local group ride


    Quote Originally Posted by nocwrench
    What is ridiculous is your reply. If you actually read the article in the OP, you will see that the "Columbus XCr tubeset is THE most expensive in the world", and just won an award for materials production.

    You should consider doing at least a little research before you post, as the entire post is riddled with inaccuracies. Like your claim that the Litespeed frameset is lighter, not the case.

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    geez

    remember design and geometry first, materials second.

    So, you are going to compare a litespeed to the Cinelli..is that a joke of some sorts?

    first i have owned Ti, 3X each time hoping for more lateral stiffness and zip, each time left dissapointed.
    owned a Kona Ti, made by Sanvik and a custom made double butted Dean.
    both were smooth, the kona heavy for what it was, and the Dean lighter, but a noodle torsionally-this was my single speed.

    road bike was a Litespeed Tuscany, a good bike but to me lacked zip, most likely down to size of stays, and geometry. (but for the price, not even in the league of a Rock Lobster or Strong or Steelman)

    FYI my custom made 56cm Steelman was 3.3lbs with paint, so the weight ain't all that hot..


    i will take the a Custom Stainless Strong over a Ti bike anyday, escpecially a Litespeed!!lol

    that Cinelli is a work of art, literally and figuratively, and most probably a smokin' ride!!!
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