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    Supersix Hi Mod 2018 vs 2018 S-Works

    I have a small chance of getting an even swap for my size and similar condition S-Works Tarmac from 2018 for my 2018 Supersix Hi Mod.

    Would u guys do it? I know Spec reserves their best of their best to have the name S-Works, how does the SS HM compare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    I have a small chance of getting an even swap for my size and similar condition S-Works Tarmac from 2018 for my 2018 Supersix Hi Mod.

    Would u guys do it? I know Spec reserves their best of their best to have the name S-Works, how does the SS HM compare?
    Huh??? Where did you hear that, from the guy who wants to swap with you? Nope, I wouldn't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    Huh??? Where did you hear that, from the guy who wants to swap with you? Nope, I wouldn't do it.
    no, i said that. i know him personally, and have done business before and know each others familys. def no foul play here.
    What i meant was Specialized s-works is their highest level product

    Given that both frames are in perfect condition, would the S-Works tarmac be a better frame than a 2018 SS HM?

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    I agree with Lombard. I wouldn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    I know Spec reserves their best of their best to have the name S-Works, how does the SS HM compare?
    And Cannondale reserves their best of their best to have the High Mod name on it.

    Impossible for anyone to answer without know why you want to swap. What are you looking to gain?

    And of course.... ride both and pick the one you like better.
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    Which one's lighter?
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    Is one red?

    Go with the red one

    Seriously though, it's going to be difficult for anyone on the internet to answer your question in a meaningful way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    And Cannondale reserves their best of their best to have the High Mod name on it.

    Impossible for anyone to answer without know why you want to swap. What are you looking to gain?

    And of course.... ride both and pick the one you like better.
    i'm look for lighter weight, better aero, and more stiffness. If the s-works has any net benefit of these mentioned, i can do the switch. Would u guys do it if you currently had a 2018 SS HM?

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    Ordinarily swapping bikes and both doing a test ride would be the solution.

    But from the sounds of it you might be able to just look at each website and see who's marketing BS you are more a sucker for. Aside from what a scale will tell you anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Ordinarily swapping bikes and both doing a test ride would be the solution.

    But from the sounds of it you might be able to just look at each website and see who's marketing BS you are more a sucker for. Aside from what a scale will tell you anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    i'm look for lighter weight, better aero, and more stiffness. If the s-works has any net benefit of these mentioned, i can do the switch.
    2018 SS HM: Frame weight 850g Fork weight 350g
    2018 S-Works Tarmac: Frame weight 800g Fork weight 338g

    So you gave up trying to shed weight swapping all the other components? https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sa...ht-368793.html


    Would u guys do it if you currently had a 2018 SS HM?
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    Does the OP always have this much trouble making decisions? Getting dressed or going to the super market must be hell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Ordinarily swapping bikes and both doing a test ride would be the solution.

    But from the sounds of it you might be able to just look at each website and see who's marketing BS you are more a sucker for. Aside from what a scale will tell you anyway.
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    Nail, meet hammer.
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    2018 SS HM: Frame weight 850g Fork weight 350g
    2018 S-Works Tarmac: Frame weight 800g Fork weight 338g

    So you gave up trying to shed weight swapping all the other components? https://forums.roadbikereview.com/sa...ht-368793.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    Does the OP always have this much trouble making decisions? Getting dressed or going to the super market must be hell...
    Yea bro i'm on male fashion forums too, and dress shoes, and car forums, and hair styling forum, beer forums,

    nah i'm still working on upgrading anything and everything i could, hence why i'm asking about the S-works. Is it stiffer then the SSHM? Some dude above says its about 70g lighter. How's the aero benefit? Heard the 2018 has some pretty bad aero

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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    Yea bro i'm on male fashion forums too, and dress shoes, and car forums, and hair styling forum, beer forums,

    nah i'm still working on upgrading anything and everything i could, hence why i'm asking about the S-works. Is it stiffer then the SSHM? Some dude above says its about 70g lighter. How's the aero benefit? Heard the 2018 has some pretty bad aero
    If you want to go faster, why don't you just ride your bike more to get stronger rather than obsessing about 70g difference in weight which you will never notice? You won't notice any difference in aero either - really!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    If you want to go faster, why don't you just ride your bike more to get stronger rather than obsessing about 70g difference in weight which you will never notice? You won't notice any difference in aero either - really!
    "ride your bike more" is not really the point. not sure why you dont see that.

    70g weight savings in a frameset is a drop in the bucket, but i've managed to drop around 1lb and counting with my bike so far. still working at it.

    back to the original question of: which is the better framset? Which would you guys take for the same price?

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    Eenie, meenie, mienie, moe
    ain't neither the one I would ride.

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    Kinda Coke vs Pepsi here, taking both for real rides is best chance of answering the question as others have said.

    But what I would add is if your Cdale is under warranty. If so, I probably wouldn't do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    Some dude above says its about 70g lighter.
    (850+350)-(800+338)=62

    A lot of hassle for 62g. Especially when you said just a month ago...
    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    nope i didn't buy the wrong bike. the fit is good, comes with a well rounded set of components. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sramred View Post
    back to the original question of: which is the better frameset? Which would you guys take for the same price?
    I would chose the Cannondale SS Hi-Mod.

    But as others have said, ride both and see which one you like the ride and feel of better.
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    Dudebro...the answer is neither. Get a Madone. More aero, more comfort in the same frame!
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    Scott Foil is aero and comfortable enough to race and win Paris-Roubaix on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lombard View Post
    I would chose the Cannondale SS Hi-Mod.

    But as others have said, ride both and see which one you like the ride and feel of better.
    This^

    I have a Hi-Mod but proper crank arm, stem and total cockpit set-up making the ride infirmity more comfortable than a 10cm there and a full 5 cm there. What ever you feel more comfortable on will be what makes you keep riding Everyday, and its all about fit.

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