based on another thread,
What bike brands are made in China?
What bike brands are made in China?
ddonner said:I read an article about 7 or 8 years ago that stated that unless a bike cost over the 3 or 4 thousand dollar (IIRC) mark, the frame was made in either China or Tiawan. Many in the same factory. The article went on to explain that there was a limited amount of factories to produce all the various bike frames. This is from memory and unfortunately, I don't remember the source. :confused5:
Doug
Even the flag wavers at Cannondale use China on the Synapse carbon models.PeanutButterBreath said:
Issues like this make me glad I own a Cannondale
Its a CAAD4 :wink:teoteoteo said:Even the flag wavers at Cannondale use China on the Synapse carbon models.
People should have this link ready to paste because this question comes up all the time.Addicted said:
I'll take a stab. When the average consumer sees a complete bike with a label on the frame that says "Made in U.S.A.", they should be able to reasonably assume the following:PeanutButterBreath said:Define "bike" and define "made".
Your point makes sense in theory, but why then do bike salespeople make a big point of emphasizing that their bike is "made in Italy" or "100% made in the U.S.A." unless that statement had an influence on the buyer? Last year my LBS Trek dealer tried to sell my wife a Pilot and kept emphasizing how Trek is made in the U.S.A., until I pointed out that the label on the Pilot actually said Made in Taiwan - in his embarrassment he stuttered that they only recently moved production to Asia.PeanutButterBreath said:I doubt that the average consumer wouldn't read through everything you just posted, much less care about the distinctions you are drawing.
Trying to define where an entire bike is manufactured and/or assembled is nonsensical in this day and age. The best you could do is label each component with the country where it was manufactured, but even then you have ambiguities, especially with finishing and paint.
Which is why this whole issue is a big waste of time, IMO. Judge a product based on the company's track record and/or warantee. Leave the countries of origin out of it. The don't mean squat anyway unless you believe that intelligence, skill and integrity are linked to nationality.
My point is that country of origin should be irrelevent to everyone. Obviously, retailers will do anything they can (within the law) to trade on bias towards US/European manufacturing over Asian manufactuing, but the bias itself is the fault of uninformed consumers. Caveat emptor.Kung Fu Felice said:Obviously, to a sophisticated biker who peruses these forums, he is knowledgeable enough that country of origin is irrelevant, but the first time bike buyer will be impressed by the "made in Italy" label over the "made in Taiwan" label.
They might hope that but the point of this thread is that such hopes are naive. Few, if any, such bikes are available.******* said:Someone who buys a bike made in the USA, France or Italy could hope that it was made in a safe workplace by people earning fair pay.
A custom bike would address the concerns! Unfortunately, not everybody has (or wants to spend) the $$ for even an entry level custom bike.PeanutButterBreath said:They might hope that but the point of this thread is that such hopes are naive. Few, if any, such bikes are available.
where did the carbon come tubes from ???Juanmoretime said:My Titus Solera is made here right in Tempe, Arizona!
And where did everything other than the frame come from?sevencycle said:where did the carbon come tubes from ???
Solera is made from American titanium tubes! No carbon.sevencycle said:where did the carbon come tubes from ???