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    You gotta post another picture, a different one.
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    Ttf

    The head badge is the only identifying marking on it, it does have the number 8384 stamped into the seat downtube right at the top of the tube.
    Yellow bike Shimano Lark SS rear derailuer. nothing else identifiying on it anywhere. components date it early 70s?

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    TTF pics

    Quote Originally Posted by billetproofcustoms View Post
    The head badge is the only identifying marking on it, it does have the number 8384 stamped into the seat downtube right at the top of the tube.
    Yellow bike Shimano Lark SS rear derailuer. nothing else identifiying on it anywhere. components date it early 70s?
    here is another pic
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    Ttf

    Anyone have any idea??

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    Ttf

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    What does that mean? There is a pic in my OP, and apic in my last post.

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    The pinstriping makes me think that this was a nice bike for its time. Not sure if these questions will provide answers but ask -

    Can you determine the threading of the frame?

    Is the crank cottered or cotterless? Cotter

    Any stamps on the rear dropouts? Are they Campy? No stamps anywhere other than the seat tube

    Any components on there that could be OEM? If so, what are they? Shimano components, all match. Lark SS rear, thunderbird front .

    700c or 27 inch wheels? Short reach or long reach brakes? 27 inch wheels, not sure how to tell on the brakes.

    Maybe answering a couple of these questions will narrow down the time period it was made and help determine or eliminate countries of origin.

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    The head badge seems to read TF, but the brake cable is in the way. Is there another letter in the center?


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    Ttf

    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    The head badge seems to read TF, but the brake cable is in the way. Is there another letter in the center?


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    Letters are all combined, center is a large T, there is a T on the left, and an F on the right.

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    Not sure who made it, but from your pics, I've made a few observations:

    Shimano Lark is an ancient, low-end derailleur line, from about 50 years ago.

    Having friction shifters on the stem is an indicator of a low-end bike.

    Having a kickstand is a similar indicator.

    A straight pipe seatpost with a cheap steel saddle clamp is an indicator of a low-end bike.

    Heavy steel cotter cranks likewise.

    Cut-steel dropouts crimped to the seatstays=cheap.

    No quick-releases? Cheap!

    Those old center-pull brakes ain't much, either

    So, it looks like a slightly more expensive department store bike from circa 1970. I'd bet it's Belgian, probably retailed for about $120 when new (as opposed to $99 at a discount store), probably with heavy straight-gage tubes held together by a slightly ornate head tube, but otherwise plain lugs. It WAS chrome-plated before painting, so at least it probably won't rust fast.

    Value? Maybe $100 IF everything is in top working order (which I doubt is the case). If not, well, a nice-looking frame as this will be worth a bit more than scrap value, but there is no great value in this old sled.
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    The stem, fork lugs and Shimano Lark... maybe a C. Itoh from Japan???




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    C. Itoh is probably a good equivalent, but is probably about 5 year newer. Also, Itoh was more of a west-coast thing, which we saw very few of in the east at that time. Early Shimano stuff competed against Huret components in the days before Sachs bought them out. Those lugs on that frame pretty much scream "European", though, and at that point, Belgium was the epicenter of cheaper 10-speeds.

    BTW, I just love that clunky chrome car headlight on the Itoh. Probably bought that kit at Western Auto back in the day....
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    The head badge is a bit of a mystery to me. It doesn’t quite seem to fit the head tube and I can’t find a reference to “TTF”. A one-off maybe, or a local cycling club back in the day???


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    That Pletcher rack on the back may be the most valuable thing on this bike- sometimes they sell on EBay for $15 or more! Since the bike has 27" wheels, it was obviously made for the American market. Probably was sold by some discount or sporting goods chain, which might explain the headbadge that doesn't really match the lugs. The pinstriping around the ornate headtube lug is probably just a case of 'putting lipstick on a pig', because the rest of this bike ain't worth much!
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    thanks

    Thanks for the input on this one guys, It actually is in good working order as it sits, but I am going to bring it to top shape and sell it. (frame is too big for me anyway) I picked it up along with a Schwinn World Sport Xtra Lite at a local garage sale for $20. I wont make much on it, but at least I'm keeping it on the road. I hate seeing old bikes get destroyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    Not sure who made it, but from your pics, I've made a few observations:

    Shimano Lark is an ancient, low-end derailleur line, from about 50 years ago.

    Having friction shifters on the stem is an indicator of a low-end bike.

    Having a kickstand is a similar indicator.

    A straight pipe seatpost with a cheap steel saddle clamp is an indicator of a low-end bike.

    Heavy steel cotter cranks likewise.

    Cut-steel dropouts crimped to the seatstays=cheap.

    No quick-releases? Cheap!

    Those old center-pull brakes ain't much, either

    So, it looks like a slightly more expensive department store bike from circa 1970. I'd bet it's Belgian, probably retailed for about $120 when new (as opposed to $99 at a discount store), probably with heavy straight-gage tubes held together by a slightly ornate head tube, but otherwise plain lugs. It WAS chrome-plated before painting, so at least it probably won't rust fast.

    Value? Maybe $100 IF everything is in top working order (which I doubt is the case). If not, well, a nice-looking frame as this will be worth a bit more than scrap value, but there is no great value in this old sled.
    That's why I tried to delete my post. At first I thought it may be a Euro bike with personality, but I didn't see the the second pic until after I posted. Yep, stamped dropouts and hb-stem mounted shifters are the deal killers.

    Amazing that my original thoughts were resurrected when I edited the comments less than a minute after posting. I guess I better never run for public office.

    Still, the pinstriping is nice and that's a nice head tube badge. Sometimes monograms have the last name as the middle initial, maybe you should be searching for a builder with initials TFT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogre View Post
    ....maybe you should be searching for a builder with initials TFT?
    This bike was factory built. Certainly no 'builder' would do a rear dropout as cheap as that! More likely, you should be looking for some small chain of general retail stores with the "TTF" initials.
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