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    Campagnolo Flatbar Shifters

    I bought some Veloce flatbar shifters. Is anyone using these? Do I really need to hunt down a Flatbar Front mech or can I use a QS mech? I have heard conflicting answers. Thanks for any info in advance.

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    I've been wanting to try a set for a couple of years. Who has them in stock? None of the UK sellers seem to have any interest in them. US sellers say nobody wants them. Shimano is selling a whole lot of their FB shifters.

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    I bought a new set off ebay.. 150..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
    I bought some Veloce flatbar shifters. Is anyone using these? Do I really need to hunt down a Flatbar Front mech or can I use a QS mech? I have heard conflicting answers. Thanks for any info in advance.
    I've been an ebayer for 5 yrs now and have only seen FB FD come up once. I believe the only difference was slightly more leverage. The short answer is that you may not have much choice but experimenting with either QS or the more recent "universal" 10 spd model FD

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    I think the veloce flat bar FD is a top pull FD (like a mountain bike) I don't know if that means the shifters won't work with a road FD or not....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topher
    I think the veloce flat bar FD is a top pull FD (like a mountain bike) I don't know if that means the shifters won't work with a road FD or not....
    No, they looked very much like a conventional FD. you can research on the campy parts site and see.

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    I got home & checked. p 43 of the 2006 parts manual (online at the campy site) shows a pic with a conventional looking FD but with a longer arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
    I bought some Veloce flatbar shifters. Is anyone using these? Do I really need to hunt down a Flatbar Front mech or can I use a QS mech? I have heard conflicting answers. Thanks for any info in advance.
    This is my setup and you must use the QS FD in order to work with FB shifters.
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    I love my SRAM Double Tap flat bar shifters.

    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
    I bought some Veloce flatbar shifters. Is anyone using these? Do I really need to hunt down a Flatbar Front mech or can I use a QS mech? I have heard conflicting answers. Thanks for any info in advance.
    Another type you might want to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro_Assi_07
    Another type you might want to try.
    No, I wouldn't..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro_Assi_07
    Another type you might want to try.
    SRAM looks nice but I don't think the 1:1 will interface with a Campy drivetrain. In my case I've got Campy on all my bikes. I'd loose my shirt selling it off and using SRAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjulio
    I've been an ebayer for 5 yrs now and have only seen FB FD come up once. I believe the only difference was slightly more leverage. The short answer is that you may not have much choice but experimenting with either QS or the more recent "universal" 10 spd model FD
    there are 2 sets up right now.

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    Do they really need a special front der?

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    Correct you need to have the QS FD otherwise it will have difficult shifting from middle to big rig chainring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zamboni
    Correct you need to have the QS FD otherwise it will have difficult shifting from middle to big rig chainring.
    I'm using a non QS and it works perfect. It's on a double though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
    I'm using a non QS and it works perfect. It's on a double though.

    That bike is so nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
    I'm using a non QS and it works perfect. It's on a double though.


    But not for a triple sharp looking bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs1
    That bike is so nice.
    It's a love hate for people. I love it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesAtime
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    Late to the party, but anyway: That's beautiful, ComesATime.

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    Hi

    I use these as well on one of my bikes.
    I have four other flat bar road bikes all with different groups so I can perhaps offer a little perspective

    The shifting
    The Campagnolo shifters are odd. They have a slightly longer learning curve to use because the action is Push/Pull and uses the thumb and fore-finger rather than just the thumb but once you figure them out the push/push on MTB systems seems really odd. So I guess I would say they grow on you. Other than the push/pull mechanism they really perform well. What you get for this oddness is the ability to change three gears at a time rather than one in back

    The shifting throw is different on the Campy units. This is really neither bad nor good but it takes some getting used to.

    Other Oddities
    If you use a triple you must have either a Campagnolo QS derailleur OR an old Shimano Deore. When I ordered the parts for the bike with the Campy flat bar some of the parts didn't come in so rather than wait I dipped into the dead parts box and a Deore FD was the only one that could be made to work. I don't know why the Deore worked but it did, however, the cage required quite a bit of, shall we say adjustment.

    Even with the proper derailleur and a Campy crank the front is a little persnickety to get adjusted right but once dialed in it works well.

    That said the shifting is precise and quick, they don't miss shifts and they seem to be reliable

    What Campy got right
    The brake levers just work tremendously well. Good feel not mushy, long enough very solid.

    This may sound trivial but the gear indicators are very well placed. I have used several other brands and the indicator window was always difficult to see. The gear indicator on Campy flat bar units is easy to read and doesn't get hidden under the bar

    Once you get used to the Push/Pull system these things shift really well. Very fast easy to use.

    What they got wrong
    There is no quick release on the brakes which means you need to get another brand brake

    The pull trigger to take the chain to a smaller sprocket could be three or four mm closer to the brake lever or possibly a little bit longer. It is a bit difficult to reach

    I would have split the shifter from the brake

    Be Careful
    There are two versions of these shifters. One for Cantilever brakes and one for caliper brakes

    Just for reference the flat bar bikes I have:
    Soma San Marcos WE/ Veloce -10 speed
    Sam Hillborne w/Suntour XC-Pro-8 speed
    Vitus Stag w/Campagnolo Bullet - 8 speed
    Unknown Aluminum frame W/Microshift - 9 speed
    Mongoose Utility bike W/SRAM 8 speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fai Mao View Post
    Be Careful
    There are two versions of these shifters. One for Cantilever brakes and one for caliper brakes
    Caliper and cantilever should use the same lever. Did you mean Linear Pull V-Brakes? I think that's what the box is marked. If you search old parts diagrams there are 2 different levers available as spares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cs1 View Post
    Caliper and cantilever should use the same lever. Did you mean Linear Pull V-Brakes? I think that's what the box is marked. If you search old parts diagrams there are 2 different levers available as spares.
    Yes I meant V-Brakes
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    I installed this flat bar set up on my wife's bike a while back. The problem I'm having is inconsistent shifting from the middle ring to the big ring. Sometimes it works, other times not. In one of the earlier posts it mentioned using a QS FD (Record) front derailleur, other wise there will be shifting issues going from the mid to the big ring.
    I'm using the QS Record derailleur circa early 2000, is there another fd I should be using?

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