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    What kind of TSS did that add up to for the week (assuming you're using WKO+).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided
    What kind of TSS did that add up to for the week (assuming you're using WKO+).
    915, but that's a hard week, they usually vary between 500-900 with 500 being an 'off' week.
    He has a good time in the legs

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    Function, maybe it bears repeating - if you want to get faster, you're gonna have to spend time in the pain zone, going considerably faster than you can sustain. VO2 intervals, even some anaerobic work.

    Otherwise, I would add the usual observation about self-coached riders: the hard parts aren't hard enough and the easy parts aren't easy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees
    Function, maybe it bears repeating - if you want to get faster, you're gonna have to spend time in the pain zone, going considerably faster than you can sustain. VO2 intervals, even some anaerobic work.

    Otherwise, I would add the usual observation about self-coached riders: the hard parts aren't hard enough and the easy parts aren't easy enough.
    I agree, although of course it depends on how he's doing with this program (and I'm not sure whether that's his typical program, or just happens to have been one week, although I thought he meant it was more-or-less typical). Function, I'm curious as to what you see as your "limiters" in races? If I followed that program, for example, I think I would struggle on power climbs and bridging gaps. I could see how, with a naturally strong sprint, a racer in a flat area might not worry much about those issues, though.

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    Thanks for the input Creaky, i think it's not obvious from the IF numbers how hard the rides are. My FTP is 340W and this is what the daily SST at IF=0.85-0.9 tend to look like, my general plan is tempo at 300W with sections at 330-400W depending on the hill, flat section of road, whatever. Lots of vo2max and threshold efforts in there; Regarding 'easy' parts, i've been doing sports my entire life so i'm good at gauging when my body needs rest.
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    He has a good time in the legs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undecided
    I agree, although of course it depends on how he's doing with this program (and I'm not sure whether that's his typical program, or just happens to have been one week, although I thought he meant it was more-or-less typical). Function, I'm curious as to what you see as your "limiters" in races? If I followed that program, for example, I think I would struggle on power climbs and bridging gaps. I could see how, with a naturally strong sprint, a racer in a flat area might not worry much about those issues, though.
    My main limiters are, experience and my power ratio isn't great for really long climbs (20min+) so those kinds of road races, i don't expect to be in the lead group unless we rode a flat section of road for 1-2hrs before the climb. My strengths are breakaways, power climbs, bridging, short power stuff and I tend to do best in long (3-4hr) road races on a rolling course with hills that are 1-5minutes long.
    He has a good time in the legs

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    You're doing great man.
    I think you're being a little too hard on yourself.
    Those are great numbers.
    You'll get where you want to be in 18 months.
    Rock on bro !

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    Quote Originally Posted by function
    Thanks for the input Creaky, i think it's not obvious from the IF numbers how hard the rides are. My FTP is 340W and this is what the daily SST at IF=0.85-0.9 tend to look like, my general plan is tempo at 300W with sections at 330-400W depending on the hill, flat section of road, whatever. Lots of vo2max and threshold efforts in there; Regarding 'easy' parts, i've been doing sports my entire life so i'm good at gauging when my body needs rest.
    WOW!! You are an animal. I just recently bought a PowerTap so I can really appreciate what those numbers mean now. Really impressive... at least to me.

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