Can you break a chain at the same spot twice?
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    Can you break a chain at the same spot twice?

    I removed the pin at the same spot twice on my 10 speed chain. I did use a new pin.

    Is this okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepherder View Post
    I removed the pin at the same spot twice on my 10 speed chain. I did use a new pin.

    Is this okay?
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    A second vote for no. The flared shoulders on the pin will damage the link when you drive out the pin, weakening the link. Replace a small section of the affected chain and use a couple new pins and you should be all set.

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    Third vote for hell no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter P. View Post
    Replace a small section of the affected chain and use a couple new pins and you should be all set.
    Or just use a quick link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    Third vote for hell no.

    Or just use a quick link.
    4th vote for hell no. 2nd vote for quick links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    No. Dibs on your stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
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    Just make a chain made only out of quicklinks. Super easy to clean, super easy to shorten and lengthen!

    Maybe a little pricey, heavy and noisy but who cares?
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    Wow, somebody thinks you can still re-use chain links? Maybe on a 6-speed chain, but NEVER on a 10-speed chain! Have fun when it fails on your next climb!
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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    Wow, somebody thinks you can still re-use chain links? Maybe on a 6-speed chain, but NEVER on a 10-speed chain! Have fun when it fails on your next climb!
    Chain links? Who's talking about links? OP pushed a pin out and then put a new pin the same spot. As we all (excepting the OP) know this is a big no-no.
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    Go on a 100 mile gravel ride and get back to us.

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    I reuse chain links all the time, no problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    I reuse chain links all the time, no problem!
    A little elaboration on this if you will. Connecting links, Shimano links with connecting pins pushed through them or what? Your post adds nothing to this thread (which really was over at post #2) without some explanation.

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    chain links... = master links consists of link with posts, a covering link and a spring clip to hold the covering link on. Can be removed and reinstalled on the same chain with a pen knife & small plyers.
    chain pins = shimano standard connection consists of standard chain and some ridiculous pin that you shove in and break 1/2 of it off to connect the 2 chain ends. Requires a special tool for removal and reinstallation. oh yea, cannot be reused and the link you had it in can't be reused... so your pretty screwed if your trying to use the same chain.

    2 completely different methods, goggle is your friend.

    also I only put out about 500w max ever, so this may not work @ pro level, or 'A' group level!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    chain links... = master links consists of link with posts, a covering link and a spring clip to hold the covering link on. Can be removed and reinstalled on the same chain with a pen knife & small plyers.
    chain pins = shimano standard connection consists of standard chain and some ridiculous pin that you shove in and break 1/2 of it off to connect the 2 chain ends. Requires a special tool for removal and reinstallation. oh yea, cannot be reused and the link you had it in can't be reused... so your pretty screwed if your trying to use the same chain.

    2 completely different methods, goggle is your friend.

    also I only put out about 500w max ever, so this may not work @ pro level, or 'A' group level!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    chain links... = master links consists of link with posts, a covering link and a spring clip to hold the covering link on. Can be removed and reinstalled on the same chain with a pen knife & small plyers.
    chain pins = shimano standard connection consists of standard chain and some ridiculous pin that you shove in and break 1/2 of it off to connect the 2 chain ends. Requires a special tool for removal and reinstallation. oh yea, cannot be reused and the link you had it in can't be reused... so your pretty screwed if your trying to use the same chain.

    2 completely different methods, goggle is your friend.

    also I only put out about 500w max ever, so this may not work @ pro level, or 'A' group level!
    No, there are not any modern drivetrains that use the 'old/moto' style 'master' link. They all use either the pin or a quick link.

    No, the pin does not require the use of any 'special' tool, just a normal chain tool. And you're definitely not screwed if you try to reuse a chain that you've taken off. You just don't push out the joining pin...any other pin is fine and the chain can be rejoined using the 'special' pin.

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    Once you use a quick link.... a chain tool is a 'special' tool.
    Everything else I'm guilty, I just got back from a ride, so I was a little hyped up. I forgot that they called them 'quick' links & I get my moto's & other bikes mixed up a LOT.
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    I still can't believe you think a chain tool is 'special' in any way. You still have to size the chain correctly no matter how you choose to join it.
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    Well it is kinda special, it's in your tool box and can only be used for 1 thing. Now in my tool box I have a chain tool and some pipe wrenches, 6"/12"/16"... I got everything covered!
    I guess I do use it for sizing a new chain. ....so ah.... you're right again! and a bonus apostrophe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    Well it is kinda special, it's in your tool box and can only be used for 1 thing. Now in my tool box I have a chain tool and some pipe wrenches, 6"/12"/16"... I got everything covered!
    I guess I do use it for sizing a new chain. ....so ah.... you're right again! and a bonus apostrophe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    No hammer?!?
    Well, its appropriate to note that Duriels post didnt quite make the mark that was it's intention, but you're response was spot on.

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