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    SRAM 12 speed Red etap AXS released

    It's been released today. 12 speed road and mountain etap. And a wireless Reverb dropper post. Check it out www.sram.com
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    Today is a good day! Can't wait to get my hands on some of that.

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    The GCN video covers it in great detail.
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    Break out your big coins - $3.6-$4.2K.

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    I'll wait till Force eTap comes out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kookieCANADA View Post
    I'll wait till Force eTap comes out...
    For reference...people are still waiting for 105 Di2, 10 years later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    For reference...people are still waiting for 105 Di2, 10 years later.
    In this case SRAM has said it's on the way.
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    Now there's a bunch of quite interesting solutions.

    Said the Campag man, who's on 12 speed already.
    They do anything just to win a salami in ridiculous races. I take my gear out of the car and put my bike together. Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me. It was the illest of times, it was the dopest of times. And we looked damn good. Actually the autobus broke down somewhere on the Mortirolo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    It's been released today. 12 speed road and mountain etap. And a wireless Reverb dropper post. Check it out www.sram.com
    This promises to be a life-changing event. Sadly I will continue to toil on with antiquated 11 speed and *gasp* even 10 speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    This promises to be a life-changing event. Sadly I will continue to toil on with antiquated 11 speed and *gasp* even 10 speed
    Depending on the price of Force eTap, I'd like to upgrade my 2013 Red 10spd (works fine but have external cables and would like to get rid of 2 of them for aesthetics).

    11spd is fine and don't plan on upgrading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kookieCANADA View Post
    Depending on the price of Force eTap, I'd like to upgrade my 2013 Red 10spd (works fine but have external cables and would like to get rid of 2 of them for aesthetics).

    11spd is fine and don't plan on upgrading.
    Why not go with the, now older, Red eTap? However, I can see wanting the Force if you can use the app though, that to me is a game changer - the ability to customize the setup. I wish they could somehow make it so the older system could use that app.

    Man, I love my eTap; it's so smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    This promises to be a life-changing event. Sadly I will continue to toil on with antiquated 11 speed and *gasp* even 10 speed
    and cables!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methodical View Post
    Why not go with the, now older, Red eTap? However, I can see wanting the Force if you can use the app though, that to me is a game changer - the ability to customize the setup. I wish they could somehow make it so the older system could use that app.

    Man, I love my eTap; it's so smooth.
    I have the 1st gen eTap on another bike, it works well too except for the occasional chain overthrow on the FD. I think I'm one of those guys that likes the "latest and greatest" even with electronics, apparel, sports equipment etc.

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    Kind of dumb SRAM still doesn't have an auto trim function for the FD.

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    Mine auto trims. Depending on where the rear is, the front shifts then moves over a little more, or not. At least on my Waterford I don't ever wish the front worked any differently, and certainly no rubbing. May simply be the adjustment, those "yaw" front der's are a little different WRT setup. I suspect lots of old Camp and Shimano guys setting the front der "parallel" to the ring at the wrong spot even though they give you those nice little marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremerradkurier View Post
    Kind of dumb SRAM still doesn't have an auto trim function for the FD.
    And why would that be? Ever actually used it?
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    Did any of the propaganda mention a solution to the FD battery clearing wide tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finx View Post
    Did any of the propaganda mention a solution to the FD battery clearing wide tires?
    Yeah, check out the GCN video. They say it can clear upto a 40 something tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremerradkurier View Post
    Kind of dumb SRAM still doesn't have an auto trim function for the FD.
    Not needed with eTap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    And why would that be? Ever actually used it?
    AFAIK Di2 auto trims the FD as the chain moves up and down the cassette; seems trivial from a programming standpoint to have the feature with electronic shifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremerradkurier View Post
    AFAIK Di2 auto trims the FD as the chain moves up and down the cassette; seems trivial from a programming standpoint to have the feature with electronic shifting.
    Yes, we know Di2 auto trims. I was talking about your comment that it's "Kind of dumb SRAM still doesn't have an auto trim function for the FD."

    Have you ever ridden a bike w/ a SRAM Yaw front derailleur? It's not needed w/ them so why would they both with it?
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    Some interesting thoughts from a youtuber called "Peak Torque" on the smaller rings...

    https://youtu.be/yOcfiVS0XTg

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    Would I be able to use the 10-33 cassette with my 11-spd DA di2 setup by just swapping out the current free hub with a sram XD driver free hub? Or is there more too it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cni2i View Post
    Would I be able to use the 10-33 cassette with my 11-spd DA di2 setup by just swapping out the current free hub with a sram XD driver free hub? Or is there more too it?
    That would be kind of interesting if di2 could be flashed and reprogrammed to shift a 12 speed set up with a narrower chain and pulleys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremerradkurier View Post
    That would be kind of interesting if di2 could be flashed and reprogrammed to shift a 12 speed set up with a narrower chain and pulleys.
    So..... your patching together 2 different systems, what could possibly be the advantage? .... are you trying to build a $20K bike?
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