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    Sram Force brakeset. Opinions please

    So i built up my bike recently using a cache of parts i had been hording for a while.
    A few of the parts were mismatched, such as my brakes.
    Right now i have a cane creek scr 3 on the front and a tiagra on the back......ewww
    Im looking to get a matching set and was wondering what opinions you guys have about the force brakeset.
    I can't seem to find alot of reviews on them.
    The ones i can get a deal on are the 2011 model.
    I already have a set of swiss stop pads kicking around to put on whatever brakes i get if it is needed.
    One of the reasons i am considering the force brakes is i will eventually upgrade my whole drivetrain to force.
    I've worked on alot of bikes with red brakes and like the way they function, and am under the impression the force brakes are the same, aside from not having the titanium bits of the reds.
    Good move?
    What say you?

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    I used Force brakes on one of my bikes, and they were the best brakes I ever used. I ended up parting that bike out to finance a couple of commuters and I was hesitant about selling the brakes because I liked them so much.

    If they would have fit the commuter bike I built I would have kept them but I needed longer reach brakes.

    I wouldn't hesitate to buy them again if I need a new set of brakes.

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    They is good. Went from 105 to Force and it's certainly better - plus they look good too! They come w/ Swiss stop pads btw.

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    Sweet deal!!
    Thanks for the feedback guys.
    Didn't realize the forces came with swiss stop pads. I thought it was just the red.
    I built up a TT bike for a guy at work and it came with swiss stop pads for aluminum rims and some for carbon rims. Bike was full red groupo and he had carbon tubulars on it.
    He said he was never going to run aluminum rims so he gave me the extra pads that came with it. Nice guy!
    I think I'm going to click the place order button......= )

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    I have the even cheaper Rival brakes - they're excellent.

    However, even cheap SCR-3s are darn good with Swisstops.
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    I was originally going to just get another scr3 to match with the front but they have been out of stock from my distributor for a while now.
    At the price i can get the force brakes for through work (bike shop) kind of makes it a no brainer.
    I have been patiently waiting for the scr rear to be in stock for over a month....can't wait any longer!!!!
    I am planning a build for my wife and will use my existing brakes on her bike, and upgrade the rear when it is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
    I have the even cheaper Rival brakes - they're excellent.

    However, even cheap SCR-3s are darn good with Swisstops.
    That Cane Creek is just a rebadged Tektro. They are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihsepa View Post
    That Cane Creek is just a rebadged Tektro. They are fine.
    I have yet to find a modern brake that doesn't work well with good pads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
    I have yet to find a modern brake that doesn't work well with good pads.
    True.

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    I had Rivals on my bike with Kool Stops. I rode a bike with the Force brake calipers and the Swiss Stop pads. Couldn't tell a difference between the two.

    I do like the finish of the Force calipers better.
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    I replaced Rival calipers (Swiss Stop pads) with Force calipers (2nd gen) & DuraAce pads. There was no difference in braking performance. The advantage of Force brakes are negligible weight saving, caliper centering adjustment, and looks. However the Ultegra 6600 brakes from a previous bike and Campagnolo Veloce brakes on my Cinelli are incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fun2none View Post
    I replaced Rival calipers (Swiss Stop pads) with Force calipers (2nd gen) & DuraAce pads. There was no difference in braking performance. The advantage of Force brakes are negligible weight saving, caliper centering adjustment, and looks. However the Ultegra 6600 brakes from a previous bike and Campagnolo Veloce brakes on my Cinelli are incredible.
    Second that on the Veloce's. I don't know if it is just the brakes, or the rims they're grabbing, but that was the best $40 I've spent on components. No QR on them, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontact View Post
    I have yet to find a modern brake that doesn't work well with good pads.
    The stock no-brand brakes that came on my Felt Z85 (2011) model were pretty bad, even after I changed out the pads. I ended up getting some Rival brakes and they are better. Very noticeable difference. I suspect that the old brake shoes had a lot of flex in them.

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    I'm very happy with my Force brakes
    4000+ miles this year, and they stop smoothly & quickly in all conditions.
    The centering screw is nice to have, and they're light.
    No complaints


    Just make sure that the cable pull on your levers is compatible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete2 View Post
    I'm very happy with my Force brakes
    4000+ miles this year, and they stop smoothly & quickly in all conditions.
    The centering screw is nice to have, and they're light.
    No complaints


    Just make sure that the cable pull on your levers is compatible.
    I have a set of ultegra 6600 shifters.
    From what i understand they have the same brake lever pull ratio as the Sram shifters.
    But the newer 5700/6700/7900 brake lever pulls different?
    Is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann View Post
    I have a set of ultegra 6600 shifters.
    From what i understand they have the same brake lever pull ratio as the Sram shifters.
    But the newer 5700/6700/7900 brake lever pulls different?
    Is this correct?
    This is correct. The 6600 levers will work with the newer calipers (4600,5700,6700,7900) at the expense of more hand effort, less modulation and feedback.

    The 6600 levers are fully compatible with the SRAM Force calipers.
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    Do you guys know what is the rubbery tape that is on the left side of the brake?
    Can it be removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorCyclist View Post
    Do you guys know what is the rubbery tape that is on the left side of the brake?
    Can it be removed?
    Yes, it prevents scratching during shipping.

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    I have a couple of sets of force brakes. They're great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorCyclist View Post
    Do you guys know what is the rubbery tape that is on the left side of the brake?
    Can it be removed?
    Pretty sure the tape is there to prevent the pinch bolt from contacting the caliper arm when the cable is disconnected.

    Btw, ordered the force brakeset.
    Thanks for all the help everybody.

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    Does anyone know when installing do you need a wrench to hold the front while you tighten the hex bolt? I have installed Shimano before and they don't have the 2 flat spot for a wrench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoorCyclist View Post
    Does anyone know when installing do you need a wrench to hold the front while you tighten the hex bolt? I have installed Shimano before and they don't have the 2 flat spot for a wrench.
    Nope. The friction from the star washer will prevent the brake from spinning when you tighten it. I put grease inside and outside the fixing nut, which also allows the nut to tighten into the frame easily and prevents corrosion.
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    I've had mine since 2009 and I've always been able to HIT THE BRAKES!!! enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete2 View Post
    I'm very happy with my Force brakes
    4000+ miles this year, and they stop smoothly & quickly in all conditions.

    Just make sure that the cable pull on your levers is compatible.
    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann View Post
    I have a set of ultegra 6600 shifters.
    From what i understand they have the same brake lever pull ratio as the Sram shifters.
    But the newer 5700/6700/7900 brake lever pulls different?
    Is this correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by fun2none View Post
    This is correct. The 6600 levers will work with the newer calipers (4600,5700,6700,7900) at the expense of more hand effort, less modulation and feedback.

    The 6600 levers are fully compatible with the SRAM Force calipers.
    So does this mean the Shimano 5700,6700,7900 brake levers are not compatible with Sram Force brake calipers?

    I have 105-5700 brifters and I was thinking to replace the stock tektro r580 and upgrade to sram force. I thought it would work, but now I have some doubts.
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    They are, I use 105-5700 shifters with SRAM Rival brakes.

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