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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisthebeave View Post
    Maybe I'm stretching too deeply but wanted to see if anyone on RBR has successfully defeated knee pain inducing tight hamstrings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    No, no one has. How to plan to induce tight hamstrings?
    I've had a pain at the upper edge of knee cap due to tight hamstring but it happened during running and jumping, not cycling. The solution was to stretch my hamstrings regularly and it worked.

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    Some rolfing sessions (manipulating muscle connective tissue) may help as well. It helped with my digestive track, and carpal tunnel. I'll soon start with treatments to realign my knees from torn ACLs.


    http://www.rolfusa.com/rolfing.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvber View Post
    I've had a pain at the upper edge of knee cap due to tight hamstring but it happened during running and jumping, not cycling. The solution was to stretch my hamstrings regularly and it worked.
    Maybe I shouldn't have assumed everyone knows that 'induce' means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Maybe I shouldn't have assumed everyone knows that 'induce' means?

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    Yep. I'm 45, run a lot, ride a lot and have a a desk job so my life is basically a constant battle with tightness. In addition to hamstrings, I also get very tight hip flexors, groin, IT bands, calves and quads. To mitigate:

    - I use a stretch strap almost every day for about twenty minutes to stretch my legs out. It's part of every gym workout I do. I try to leave time after a ride to do the same. Stretch straps are invaluable and cost about $10.
    - I do weighted back squats twice a week in the gym. I break parallel with my thighs and this has really helped my flexibility and strength on a bike. Sidenote: squats are probably my favorite lift, they give you an insane high.
    - If I'm sore, I hit everything with foam rollers and stick rollers while relaxing at night. Rolling out sore quads can be extremely intense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    Maybe I shouldn't have assumed everyone knows that 'induce' means?
    “Everyone knows that induce means” what? What does induce mean? Is that your question? I am as lost as I was from your previous post... And I think I speak Jay pretty well... haha.
    To date, philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways. The point however is to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    “Everyone knows that induce means” what? What does induce mean? Is that your question? I am as lost as I was from your previous post... And I think I speak Jay pretty well... haha.
    I typed that instead of what by mistake.

    The OP asked if inducing tight hamstrings helps with knees.
    I said no.
    Someone contradicted that answer.
    I wondered if OP and the person who implied it could help knew what induce meant.

    Follow?

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    A cheap foam roller works wonders- better than static stretching in my experience. For training proper "bending over" technique, there's nothing better than barbell deadlifts.


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    Is it possible that having tight hamstrings could cause knee pain regardless of saddle position? For example, to get the saddle high enough to avoid frontal knee pain, I might be over-extending with my tight hamstrings and causing back of knee pain? And to go low enough to avoid back of knee pain, I would induce frontal knee pain?

    I'm stretching my hamstrings every day and have recently backed off how deep I stretch. I think this is helping because part of the pain may have been from a torn hamstring from over-stretching.

    Am I over thinking this or does this make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisisthebeave View Post
    Is it possible that having tight hamstrings could cause knee pain regardless of saddle position? For example, to get the saddle high enough to avoid frontal knee pain, I might be over-extending with my tight hamstrings and causing back of knee pain? And to go low enough to avoid back of knee pain, I would induce frontal knee pain?

    I'm stretching my hamstrings every day and have recently backed off how deep I stretch. I think this is helping because part of the pain may have been from a torn hamstring from over-stretching.

    Am I over thinking this or does this make sense?
    Maybe strained or pulled. I highly doubt it's torn. There's no way a torn hamstring will just be a "may have been." You would be in much more pain.

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    I have a patellar tracking problem (floating kneecap) due to tight hamstrings. My PT taped it in position and gave me a few stretches to do. Now that I stretch fairly regularly, once a week or so, my knees don't hurt. For awhile there walking up stairs was almost impossible. Now when I feel a twinge in my knee I do the stretches & I'm good.

    The most effective stretch for me was this one:


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
    I have a patellar tracking problem (floating kneecap) due to tight hamstrings. My PT taped it in position and gave me a few stretches to do. Now that I stretch fairly regularly, once a week or so, my knees don't hurt. For awhile there walking up stairs was almost impossible. Now when I feel a twinge in my knee I do the stretches & I'm good.

    The most effective stretch for me was this one:

    I can vouch that these definitely help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
    The most effective stretch for me was this one:
    That's mainly for tensor fascia latae and guteus maximus stretch, a.k.a. "I T band stretch" which helps to align the knee joint movement. Tight hamstring can cause knee pain in a different way which I posted about earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steinercat View Post
    Maybe strained or pulled. I highly doubt it's torn. There's no way a torn hamstring will just be a "may have been." You would be in much more pain.
    Right, if it's hamstring tear, he will have much bigger pain in the hamstring than knee at the instant it happened.

    When stretching, warm up first, gentle slow bend and hold steady for min. 30 seconds. No jerky motion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bvber View Post
    That's mainly for tensor fascia latae and guteus maximus stretch, a.k.a. "I T band stretch" which helps to align the knee joint movement. Tight hamstring can cause knee pain in a different way which I posted about earlier.
    I struggle with making sense of this, at least from my non professional reading of the literature... Can the IT band be stretched?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PBL450 View Post
    I struggle with making sense of this, at least from my non professional reading of the literature... Can the IT band be stretched?
    No, it cannot be stretched in the conventional or traditional sense of muscle stretching. However, it's tightness and or associated pain can be lessened in other ways.

    I will now step aside for the numerous posts to follow arguing over yes or no and how or how not to stretch it.

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