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    Being visible to cars when riding in to the sun

    Hi all, I am leading a group of riders on a route where the the first 10 miles are directly in to the early morning sun. I need to make sure we are very visible to cars ( You all know how difficult is to have a good clear vision when driving in to the early morning sun) and I am trying to find out what colors jersey are best to wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankuota View Post
    Hi all, I am leading a group of riders on a route where the the first 10 miles are directly in to the early morning sun. I need to make sure we are very visible to cars ( You all know how difficult is to have a good clear vision when driving in to the early morning sun) and I am trying to find out what colors jersey are best to wear.
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    I have that problem on parts of my morning rides too......I'm trusting a couple of bright flashing red taillights mounted lower on my frame to alert drivers. So far that has worked for me.

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    You're going to be a silhouette, at best.

    At worst, you'll be completely lost in the driver's windshield glare and dirt (not to mention the average driver's distraction with a phone, infotainment screen, boiling hot coffee with a questionable lid, squinting at the sun, trying to hide behind their sun visor, etc).

    Maybe a bright strobe light on the back of your bike or helmet would cut through the glare to get the driver's attention. But I don't think any jersey color is going to help.

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    Strong blinking lights are a must but, as far as color goes, I notice fluorescent yellow more than any other color when I'm driving.

    edit: Just saw this VeloNews article: https://www.velonews.com/2018/10/bik...ng-seen_472689
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    We have the same issue on evening rides and one section of road is extremely troublesome as its a long bridge and the road narrows significantly. I prefer to re-route the ride and delay this section until the sun is out of their eyes or to take a break and let the sun go down.

    I do not believe any additional lights will make it safe in this situation. However I'm open to input-suggestions.

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    consensus on this silly forum is:
    - never bother with lights in daytime, it will only attract cars like moths to a flame
    - black clothing, or black with a little red, is the only acceptable choice
    - steel frames make you faster, smarter, thinner and invulnerable to cars
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    Maybe one of these guys on top of your helmet would help. I chose blue to contrast with yellow sunlight.

    https://www.larsonelectronics.com/p-...etic-base.aspx




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    Change the route.... best solution. Why are you putting everyone in danger, it just doesn't make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankuota View Post
    Hi all, I am leading a group of riders on a route where the the first 10 miles are directly in to the early morning sun. I need to make sure we are very visible to cars ( You all know how difficult is to have a good clear vision when driving in to the early morning sun) and I am trying to find out what colors jersey are best to wear.
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    10 miles directly into the morning sun? Nope. Wouldn't do it. Sounds like a death trap. NO amount of light is going to outshine the sun.

    I'd do everything in my power to re-route. Or change the time of the ride.
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    This is the absolute worst lighting situation you can have and small lights or clothing are going to do little to nothing. Just think about what it's like when you're driving a car in this situation, especially if your windshield is not clean and has film/fog on the inside.

    Change route or time of ride... that's the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPlKE View Post
    You're going to be a silhouette, at best.

    At worst, you'll be completely lost in the driver's windshield glare and dirt (not to mention the average driver's distraction with a phone, infotainment screen, boiling hot coffee with a questionable lid, squinting at the sun, trying to hide behind their sun visor, etc).

    Maybe a bright strobe light on the back of your bike or helmet would cut through the glare to get the driver's attention. But I don't think any jersey color is going to help.
    This was me this morning... got honked at a few times when the light turned green but I could not see it because... visor... My windows are actually clean.. honestly, this is a problem only a welding facemask can fix... sunglasses don't do crap..

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    go the other way or end up like Tony.

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    Is there a reason why you canít reverse the route?

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    Final solution: Start the ride 10 miles into the ride.
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    Being visible to cars while riding into the sun


    If one were to ride their bike into the Sun, I imagine that visibility to cars would be one of the smaller problems. Once you start accelerating towards escape velocity, you will be much faster than any car. I'd be more worried about thermal protection as you approach the corona, that gets pretty hot.

    (sorry, I know this is not in the Lownge, but it is Friday)

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    Thank you all for your encouraging comments :-)
    I moved the start time one hour later, Checked the map and route goes East-North, and I just found out there is another very large group using the same rout we are, and starting few minutes later.
    The route is popular for cyclists, it is mountain climb loop where no matter which way you go you still end up in to the sun.
    first 10 miles climbs 2,600 feet and I drove it yesterday and confirmed it has a decent shoulder width.

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    And you could lay out one of these at the beginning of the sunny portion of your ride.


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    Attachment 324058 This is my goto sag wagon on those days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by duriel View Post
    Attachment 324058 This is my goto sag wagon on those days!
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    op put some TP on your shoes like this...It's very noticable

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    Quote Originally Posted by factory feel View Post
    op put some TP on your shoes like this...It's very noticable


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