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    Quote Originally Posted by Notvintage View Post
    Vehicular manslaughter pure and simple. That said, I've heard that Florida is a dangerous place for road cycling in general. Tons of unlicensed morons driving around.
    FL has a high proportion of people with DWI convictions - about 800,000 people. And that does not include those who regularly drive under the influence and have never been caught.
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    It's sad to hear about what happened. Not placing blame anywhere specific, but cyclists can do more to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akirasho View Post
    Locally, a few years ago, a cyclist was struck with the driver claiming "sun blindness" which is an oddity to me.
    I hope the prosecuting attorney shreds the driver to pieces with this claim. If you consider the direction of travel, the time of day, and where the sun was in the sky, there isn't a chance in Hell she was blinded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JW Fas View Post
    I hope the prosecuting attorney shreds the driver to pieces with this claim. If you consider the direction of travel, the time of day, and where the sun was in the sky, there isn't a chance in Hell she was blinded.

    Real world discriptor: There is no way that a reasonably responsible driver could or would not have seen the cyclists in time to avoid.


    Legal discriptor: The defendant has testified under oath that she (with no other witnesses in the car to dispute) was blinded by the sun and did not see the cyclists in time to avoid.

    Recent personal events have made me aware that things are not nearly as black and white as the real world suggests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notvintage View Post
    Vehicular manslaughter pure and simple. That said, I've heard that Florida is a dangerous place for road cycling in general. Tons of unlicensed morons driving around.
    "On a per capita basis, Florida recorded an annual average of about 5.7 cyclist deaths per million residents, by far the most of any state."

    Deadliest States For Cyclists: Per Capita Fatality Rates

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    "Bicyclists are far more likely to be killed in Florida than any other state, and it dominates the rankings of most dangerous cities for cyclists, according to the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration.

    The per-capita cyclist death rate was almost 60 percent higher than the next closest state."

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opin...925-story.html

    I know what state I'm not riding in, in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeBean2 View Post
    "On a per capita basis, Florida recorded an annual average of about 5.7 cyclist deaths per million residents, by far the most of any state."

    Deadliest States For Cyclists: Per Capita Fatality Rates

    Also:

    "Bicyclists are far more likely to be killed in Florida than any other state, and it dominates the rankings of most dangerous cities for cyclists, according to the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration.

    The per-capita cyclist death rate was almost 60 percent higher than the next closest state."

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opin...925-story.html

    I know what state I'm not riding in, in the near future.
    I'm really surprised NJ didn't make the "dirty dozon". There are lots of wackos here.
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