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    I crashed in Zwift tonight

    No, I don't mean my avatar crashed in the simulation. I was trying the new Leith Hill route and in that last 10% climb to the finish I got a bad cramp 300ft from the top. I tried to massage it out but it got worse and worse. I was in a lot of pain so I tried to unclip. In all the wiggling around I was doing, me, the bike and the trainer all fell over on the basement floor. A new low for Zwifting!

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    Something similar happened to me.

    Check it out: http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...ss-287244.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    No, I don't mean my avatar crashed in the simulation. I was trying the new Leith Hill route and in that last 10% climb to the finish I got a bad cramp 300ft from the top. I tried to massage it out but it got worse and worse. I was in a lot of pain so I tried to unclip. In all the wiggling around I was doing, me, the bike and the trainer all fell over on the basement floor. A new low for Zwifting!
    I know not of this Zwift. But do you mean Leith Hill in Surrey, England?

    If so, I know it.
    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yrupye7B0

    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?
    One.
    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    Did you get any e-rash? And how is the bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjulio View Post
    I know not of this Zwift. But do you mean Leith Hill in Surrey, England?

    If so, I know it.
    Yes. the same. Zwift just added that as part of their London simulation. They also have Box Hill. I have no idea how closely it matches the real thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogre View Post
    Did you get any e-rash? And how is the bike?
    It didn't register on Strava so I can deny it if needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    Yes. the same. Zwift just added that as part of their London simulation. They also have Box Hill. I have no idea how closely it matches the real thing
    It was my area when I went back to my English roots. My personal experience was going up Pitch Hill out of Ewhurst and down Leith Hill. The Surrey downs have a habit of sharply increasing the gradient just before the summit. As you now know.

    The Surrey hills are scary for a poor descender like me. Always dark, damp with fast off camber blind corners. And did I mention narrow with traffic coming the other way?

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    We just don’t realize the most significant moments of our lives when they’re happening
    Back then I thought “well there'll be other days”
    I didn’t realize that was the only day
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9yrupye7B0

    There's sometimes a buggy.
    How many drivers does a buggy have?
    One.
    So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
    and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    No, I don't mean my avatar crashed in the simulation. I was trying the new Leith Hill route and in that last 10% climb to the finish I got a bad cramp 300ft from the top. I tried to massage it out but it got worse and worse. I was in a lot of pain so I tried to unclip. In all the wiggling around I was doing, me, the bike and the trainer all fell over on the basement floor. A new low for Zwifting!
    Did you ride with a helmet?

    I've never zwifted, but years ago did a spinning class a few times. I found it a very different experience than outdoor cycling. Seemed to hit my muscles differently.

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    I had a zwift crash as well last year going after the green jersey in London. On my 5th attempt at it (bike must have wiggled loose from the previous ones) me and the bike fell over right after I crossed the line, trainer didn't fall over, cracked the rear dropout on my frame, bent skewer etc. Lesson learned but it worked out as an excuse to my wife to get a new frame (She still likes to say I did it on purpose).

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    z-crash and z-rash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek_5200 View Post
    Did you ride with a helmet?

    I've never zwifted, but years ago did a spinning class a few times. I found it a very different experience than outdoor cycling. Seemed to hit my muscles differently.
    yes it does, especially with dumb trainer like the Kurt Kinetic type. What happens here is that there is always a resistance put on your legs, so the leg's inner muscles (adductors and hamstrings) are forced to work harder than they would be on the road, and since these are weaker muscles, they will cramp out sooner if overworked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aclinjury View Post
    z-crash and z-rash
    It would have been kinda cool if then my avatar had a ripped jersey and shorts with maybe some blood gushing out

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    Thread dredge. I saw a Domane in one of our workstands tonight. On the left (NDS) triangle, frame was snapped at the seatstay very close to the junction with the TT/Seattube. Chainstay was broken in two places, close to the BB junction and close to the dropout. A piece of the left chainstay between the two breakpoints was missing. All of the breaks were fairly clean, i.e., the breaks were quite perpendicular and didn't leave strands of carbon fiber trailing.

    Evidently dude was on a direct drive trainer Zwifting when everything snapped, and he went down somewhat hard on the left side. I don't have all the facts, frame had a thru-axle and I don't know if everything was set up properly. But Trek is giving him a crash replacement frame. Wish I had a pic, never seen a frame broken like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogre View Post
    Thread dredge. I saw a Domane in one of our workstands tonight. On the left (NDS) triangle, frame was snapped at the seatstay very close to the junction with the TT/Seattube. Chainstay was broken in two places, close to the BB junction and close to the dropout. A piece of the left chainstay between the two breakpoints was missing. All of the breaks were fairly clean, i.e., the breaks were quite perpendicular and didn't leave strands of carbon fiber trailing.

    Evidently dude was on a direct drive trainer Zwifting when everything snapped, and he went down somewhat hard on the left side. I don't have all the facts, frame had a thru-axle and I don't know if everything was set up properly. But Trek is giving him a crash replacement frame. Wish I had a pic, never seen a frame broken like that.
    So virtual crashes are a real thing. Good to see that Trek covered this

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    I kinda wonder about this.

    I'm a bit of a gorilla sprinter, wrenching the bike around and flinging my ever-expanding mass all over the place. Carbon, aluminum, steel, titanium... I haven't managed to break one yet, and I've been a fairly regular Zwift user (6 days a week/6+ months out of the year) since beta. In fact, my current home trainer bike has a dented hydroformed aluminum frame. Been locked on the trainer exclusively for four years. Maybe I'm just really, really lucky.

    I'm curious if there wasn't some other trauma involved that caused the issue.

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    Makes sense I guess. With that kind of trainer you're essentially clamping the bike in a vise in a fixed position then wrenching it side to side if you're out of the saddle sprinting. I can see where that could be a problem for riders who really like to hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska Mike View Post
    I kinda wonder about this.

    I'm a bit of a gorilla sprinter, wrenching the bike around and flinging my ever-expanding mass all over the place. Carbon, aluminum, steel, titanium... I haven't managed to break one yet, and I've been a fairly regular Zwift user (6 days a week/6+ months out of the year) since beta. In fact, my current home trainer bike has a dented hydroformed aluminum frame. Been locked on the trainer exclusively for four years. Maybe I'm just really, really lucky.

    I'm curious if there wasn't some other trauma involved that caused the issue.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Alaska Mike again.

    Lol, great post! I try to limit my efforts to ~70% of what I can usually do in the real world. I also don't use the trainer nearly as much as you. "Fairly regular?" At 6x a week half of the year, they should offer you stock options when the IPO hits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wetworks View Post
    Lol, great post! I try to limit my efforts to ~70% of what I can usually do in the real world. I also don't use the trainer nearly as much as you. "Fairly regular?" At 6x a week half of the year, they should offer you stock options when the IPO hits!
    Part of the reality of being a dedicated roadie in a place with ice and snow on the roads for half the year. With my current job and the places it takes me (where there are no roads), my trainer season has been extended significantly. Zwift just helps to pass the time.

    My trainer sprint peak is somewhere around 1300W, while my road sprint peaks around 1800W when I'm on form. Because of the nature of Zwift sprints, I usually peak at 1000w but hold it for a longer duration. My trainers (a couple Lemonds and a Kicker Core) are fixed and pretty stable. I flex the hell out of my bars in a trainer sprint, and the front wheel gets a workout as well as I'm flailing about. So yeah, I abuse the crap out of the bikes I strap to a trainer. Right now, my travel trainer bike is a stripped down, steel Ritchey BreakAway CX. My home trainer bike is a dented, hydroformed aluminum Storck Visioner I no longer trust on the road (thanks TSA).

    Again, maybe I'm just extremely lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveG View Post
    It would have been kinda cool if then my avatar had a ripped jersey and shorts with maybe some blood gushing out
    Yes. Then they can add a subroutine that lets other riders point and laugh as they pass you...
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    If you can't stay on the bike, on the road, upright in zwiffer.
    DON'T LEAD THE BIKE GROUP on the local ride, reconsider whether you should ride on the road at ALL!!!
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