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    Modern road bikes are over-engineered crap designed ONLY to make corporations money!

    Modern road bikes are over-engineered crap designed ONLY to make corporations money! Everything these bike companies do is designed to eat more of your money while giving you little in return....

    Now is the time to stage a revolt! Stop buying these ridiculous priced bikes that are over-engineered pieces of crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloKilo7 View Post
    Modern road bikes are over-engineered crap designed ONLY to make corporations money! Everything these bike companies do is designed to eat more of your money while giving you little in return....

    Now is the time to stage a revolt! Stop buying these ridiculous priced bikes that are over-engineered pieces of crap!
    Absolutely this. Who could argue with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    Absolutely this. Who could argue with this?
    The guy who owns the LBS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    Absolutely this. Who could argue with this?
    I will....

    Think about how you make your money, chances are there are a lot of people on this planet that can do without your products or services. Does that make your stuff crap?

    I don't enjoy paying exorbitant prices for things, and there are some things I will not spend a dime on. But so far I think I have gotten my money's worth out of the 10's of thousands I have spent on bikes over the years. And my current steed is better engineered and a more pleasant experience because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    The guy who owns the LBS.
    Don't you see, he's part of the bikeocracy, man! So much of tool of the industry, his underwear probably says "Park."

    And the overengineering; let's face it, the whole sport's been on the downhill since the derailleur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Scorcho View Post
    I will....

    Think about how you make your money, chances are there are a lot of people on this planet that can do without your products or services. Does that make your stuff crap?

    I don't enjoy paying exorbitant prices for things, and there are some things I will not spend a dime on. But so far I think I have gotten my money's worth out of the 10's of thousands I have spent on bikes over the years. And my current steed is better engineered and a more pleasant experience because of it.

    You only think that because it's true.
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    right on, man! power to the pedalers...

    who REALLY needs frames/wheels made out of metal or carbon...? srsly, wood works just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    Don't you see, he's part of the bikeocracy, man! So much of tool of the industry, his underwear probably says "Park."

    And the overengineering; let's face it, the whole sport's been on the downhill since the derailleur.
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    If someone has a problem with prices for hobby/activity equipment, they can choose another hobby/activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frdfandc View Post
    If someone has a problem with prices for hobby/activity equipment, they can choose another hobby/activity.

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    Of course, but they can still go online and explain to others how wrong their choices are, right?
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    Sounds like someones butthurt cause they bought a new bike and it didn't make them faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    Henri Desgrange, is that you?
    The rider must be made to suffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    Of course, but they can still go online and explain to others how wrong their choices are, right?
    Absolutely. They're easily ignored

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    Over-engineered? I dont know. Over-priced? Absolutely! Looking for innovation, solving problems that dont exist... Absolutely.
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    Think about it PEOPLE! They have formed a monopoly! There is NO reason bikes should cost as much as they do! The group and wheel sets are affordable, BUT what in the world is going on with the cost of carbon/TI FRAMES? Is everyone insane? Why would you pay thousands of dollars for carbon/TI frame!?!?! They can make a reliable/safe good riding frame for just a few hundred bucks, BUT YET somehow the big companies squash the ability of the consumer to buy a decent frame for an affordable price.

    If you want to be a high performance racer, then great buy the sports model, but the over whelming majorty of us, by the millions just want a reliable/safe nice riding carbon frame with ultegra components ($650)and a 1500gram or less wheelset ($350). DO THE MATH, it shouldn't cost more than $1500, BUT NO bike companies have determined that we need over-engineered (or just hyped?) pieces of carbon cracking crap.... there is a dirty little secret in the bike industry that they are manipulating the prices so they can charge $3000 or more for a lousy frame.

    EVERYONE call EVERYONE you know, and also call your congressman and tell them that there is a conspiracy to inflate the cost of bikes. It is a RIPOFF of gigantic proportions.

    BEFORE you bike industry people post a snarky response, go look in the mirror, and tell yourself there is a better way to earn a living than rip people off! GET A LIFE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloKilo7 View Post
    also call your congressman
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloKilo7 View Post
    Modern road bikes are over-engineered crap designed ONLY to make corporations money! Everything these bike companies do is designed to eat more of your money while giving you little in return....

    Now is the time to stage a revolt! Stop buying these ridiculous priced bikes that are over-engineered pieces of crap!
    So true.

    An old trick picked up from cars: buy used. Look for cherries. Top of the line at a modest price. Speeds? Marketing BS. The more gears, the faster they wear out.

    The latest gravel trends: what goes around comes around. Back in the days of steel, they were "fast touring" rigs, same as racing bikes but with 42-28 tooth low gears, eyeleted dropouts for rack and fenders, room for 28C tires. That was it. 32 spoked wheels for racing, 36 spoked for touring, on cheap aluminum rims. If the rim pretzeled in a crash, we'd replace it on the same hubs and most of the spokes, for $30.

    No inner chain ring? So it's back to 10 speeds, er, 11, er 12 speeds, just like 40 years ago when 6 speed freewheels came on. How about these wimpy 11 and 12 tooth cogs? They all go to smaller 50 or 46 tooth chain rings so rider can actually use these gears. 52-13 was bad enough, a tyranny of fashion that rendered 52-14 obsolete. How many gears do the legs need? Around about 8 speeds, the differences are so subtle. What's wrong with varying leg speed? Good for the legs!

    Weight: 20# is perfect. Anything less is going to be either too stiff or too weak in that inevitable crash. That 16# bike will make it up the hills just fine, but break in a crash, so you're gambling on whether you'll make it home or your ride is over. That steel bike will last as long as you keep the rust off it. 150,000 miles? 40 years? Terrible marketing strategy.

    Hydraulic disc brakes? Give me a break. Everybody has to follow everybody else or they lose market share.

    An Italian builder showing off a 13# titanium bike, quipped years ago if the bike weighs less than 20% of the rider, then easily satisfied by a 20-25# bike, he'll be able to ride it with complete control, as an extension of his body. It's all in the legs, pumped up tires and lubed chain.

    What happens: riders meet up and try to outdo each other. They perpetually maintain a market for the latest gear, talked up in the magazines, status in the group ride. And then some idiot on a "fat tire bike" passes you like you're standing still. It's all in the legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloKilo7 View Post
    Why would you pay thousands of dollars for carbon/TI frame!?!?! They can make a reliable/safe good riding frame for just a few hundred bucks
    Have you ever heard of R&D? And tooling costs? I guess you've heard of trolling....

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    This isn't quality trolling. Way too obvious, and no originality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    So true.

    An old trick picked up from cars: buy used. Look for cherries. Top of the line at a modest price. Speeds? Marketing BS. The more gears, the faster they wear out.

    The latest gravel trends: what goes around comes around. Back in the days of steel, they were "fast touring" rigs, same as racing bikes but with 42-28 tooth low gears, eyeleted dropouts for rack and fenders, room for 28C tires. That was it. 32 spoked wheels for racing, 36 spoked for touring, on cheap aluminum rims. If the rim pretzeled in a crash, we'd replace it on the same hubs and most of the spokes, for $30.

    No inner chain ring? So it's back to 10 speeds, er, 11, er 12 speeds, just like 40 years ago when 6 speed freewheels came on. How about these wimpy 11 and 12 tooth cogs? They all go to smaller 50 or 46 tooth chain rings so rider can actually use these gears. 52-13 was bad enough, a tyranny of fashion that rendered 52-14 obsolete. How many gears do the legs need? Around about 8 speeds, the differences are so subtle. What's wrong with varying leg speed? Good for the legs!

    Weight: 20# is perfect. Anything less is going to be either too stiff or too weak in that inevitable crash. That 16# bike will make it up the hills just fine, but break in a crash, so you're gambling on whether you'll make it home or your ride is over. That steel bike will last as long as you keep the rust off it. 150,000 miles? 40 years? Terrible marketing strategy.

    Hydraulic disc brakes? Give me a break. Everybody has to follow everybody else or they lose market share.

    An Italian builder showing off a 13# titanium bike, quipped years ago if the bike weighs less than 20% of the rider, then easily satisfied by a 20-25# bike, he'll be able to ride it with complete control, as an extension of his body. It's all in the legs, pumped up tires and lubed chain.

    What happens: riders meet up and try to outdo each other. They perpetually maintain a market for the latest gear, talked up in the magazines, status in the group ride. And then some idiot on a "fat tire bike" passes you like you're standing still. It's all in the legs.

    No batteries. They die.

    Tubeless? Better carry a spare tube just in case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloKilo7 View Post
    Think about it PEOPLE! They have formed a monopoly! There is NO reason bikes should cost as much as they do!
    So you should start a bike company and make bikes at a 'reasonable' cost.
    THINK ABOUT IT! You could be rich and famous for upending the evil bike industry!


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
    This isn't quality trolling. Way too obvious, and no originality.
    Or mental health issues.

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    While I agree the OP might be a bit of "Old Man yells at cloud"... I wouldn't mind more standardization when it comes to components. I know each company wants their niche but do we need so many different bottom bracket standards? No. But we have them not so much because it's holistically better, but because if you want Brand X's bottom bracket you also have to buy the right frame it fits in or adapters to make it fit, not to mention Brand X's special tool for removing/installing the bottom bracket. And of course buying in to one of the new standards puts you at risk of owning the Betamax of bike components a year from now...

    Betamax... now I'm the Old Man yelling at cloud...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
    This isn't quality trolling. Way too obvious, and no originality.
    Yes, really, as for rating this troll, I'd give it 2 stars out of 5. Next time, try to be a bit more original, a bit more condescending, and a bit more unhinged and irrational.
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