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    Most trivial, make-or-break features

    This is just for fun, but as I look at and research a new bike purchase, I find there are some really minor and/or trivial things that shouldn't be important to me, but are.

    For example, the Treks have the DuoTrap feature that neatly hides away a sensor. Also, their Blendr stem things.

    Also, the (now old) Roubaix had that totally odd seat post. Even if that was the perfect bike, I would have a hard time getting it because of that.

    So, what are your trivial, yet oddly-important-to-you things on a bike?
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    A sturdy kickstand is a "must have" for me. There is no way I'm going to just lean my uber-light carbon bike on the side of the wall like some cycling neophyte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    A sturdy kickstand is a "must have" for me.
    Last weekend, after topping out on a long MTB trail and stopping for lunch, we laid our bikes down on the jagged limestone off of the trail. My friend made an interesting observation: we just laid $10k in carbon fiber bikes on the ground and at leas one has hidden compartments for electronic shifting batteries. Isn't it time for trigger-actuated stealth kickstands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    A sturdy kickstand is a "must have" for me. There is no way I'm going to just lean my uber-light carbon bike on the side of the wall like some cycling neophyte.
    I have no need for a kickstand. Knowing that the bike will eventually fall over while using a kickstand, I just drop the bike to the ground when I get off, usually to the derailleur side.

    This had always worked as a kid and works just as well now, as an adult.
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    Too many logos. My last bike said Colnago on it like 16 times. Twice on the down tube and once on the head tube would suffice.

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    wind fairing.

    I used one for a year around 1981. kind of neat but I can live without.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    I have no need for a kickstand. Knowing that the bike will eventually fall over while using a kickstand, I just drop the bike to the ground when I get off, usually to the derailleur side.

    This had always worked as a kid and works just as well now, as an adult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightning33 View Post
    So, what are your trivial, yet oddly-important-to-you things on a bike?
    the stuff hanging from my bikes must read, "Campagnolo."

    It would still work fine if it read "Suntour Cyclone" or something similar, but it just wouldn't feel right.
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    For me, it's modern steel construction with a carbon fork. Threaded bottom bracket and a press in headset.
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    Bladed spokes. They just destroy the baseball cards way too quickly.

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    Duotrap is kinda pointless these days.

    It's ANT+ only, and requires magnets on your wheel and crank.

    Modern sensors are 2 Channel BTLE as well as ANT+, and don't require magnets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogus View Post
    Bladed spokes. They just destroy the baseball cards way too quickly.
    And they completely rule out balloons.
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    Internal cable routings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    Internal cable routings.
    Poorly designed internal cable routing. Done correctly it's fine. Non-threaded bottom brackets. Shimano shifters that break cables/are harder than any other to pull hoods forward/are harder than any other to get a 5mm into the right spot to install. Di2 that needs near-constant updating. Bottle cages that completely block front derailleur mounting bolts. I'm sure there are more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
    Poorly designed internal cable routing. Done correctly it's fine. Non-threaded bottom brackets. Shimano shifters that break cables/are harder than any other to pull hoods forward/are harder than any other to get a 5mm into the right spot to install. Di2 that needs near-constant updating. Bottle cages that completely block front derailleur mounting bolts. I'm sure there are more.
    I feel your pain! We used to call it "Sh!tmano." We decided the Shimano designers were getting even with us for losing WW2. . Campy parts were a breath of fresh air, built to service. This apparently is still true.

    So Di2 has to be upgraded all the time? Forget it. Cables only have to be upgraded when they break, always at the clicks in the shifters. Down tube shifter cables break where they bend around the levers. Rider feels the breaks when reaching down and shifting, and replaces the cable in a couple of minutes, no adjustments necessary.

    Yes, non threaded BBs suck. Old style cup and cone are still the best. They're entirely serviceable. Threaded cartridges always fail sooner than cup and cone, IME. It's pretty obvious press fit BBs were a response to the fact carbon threads wouldn't hold. Aluminum inserts corroded and came loose, so they eliminated threads and went with "press fit." About the worst place to rely on press fit, so they try to make up for it with massive BBs.

    Well, good for the latest internal cable schemes. I've had nothing but problems. Sweat inevitably gets stuck in the holes, corrodes the aluminum, steel, or carbon tubing, teflon cable housing, and the old housing won't come out when you go to replace it. They've been around since the '80s at least. Plenty of reasons external cables haven't been relegated obsolete over 40 years. They're serviceable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by velodog View Post
    I have no need for a kickstand. Knowing that the bike will eventually fall over while using a kickstand, I just drop the bike to the ground when I get off, usually to the derailleur side.

    This had always worked as a kid and works just as well now, as an adult.
    You can always be "French", just turn on crank to bottom and lean the pedal against the curb....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredrico View Post
    I feel your pain! We used to call it "Sh!tmano." We decided the Shimano designers were getting even with us for losing WW2. . Campy parts were a breath of fresh air, built to service.
    As I recall, Japan and Italy were both on the losing side in WWII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Time Toulouse View Post
    You can always be "French", just turn on crank to bottom and lean the pedal against the curb....
    Yup! That or positioning the rear tire at an angle to the object you intend to lean it against, steer front wheel same way, now you have 3 points of contact leaning in the same direction, just like a kickstand.

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    Pretty much anything proprietary is no go for me.
    Seat post collar would be a good example of that as it applies to being seemingly trivial. (not to mention the seatpost itself which is a bit less trivial).

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