• 07-25-2004
    midlife_xs's
    sloping or horizontal toptube? pls vote
    Which one will you choose when buying a road bike? Sloping or the standard *horizontal* toptube?....Thanks.
  • 07-25-2004
    Henry Chinaski
    All my road bikes have horizontal top tubes. My next will be compact--easier to clamp into the repair stand.
  • 07-25-2004
    gogogomoveit
    I ride a compact. But horizontal top tube appeals to me more.
  • 07-25-2004
    Flyingsquid
    Horizontal all the way.....
  • 07-25-2004
    srf
    Or semi-sloping...
  • 07-26-2004
    The Walrus
    Depends on which fits better
    Admittedly, I'm a bit difficult to fit, since I have a longish torso and shortish legs (damn my Irish ancestors!), so I tend to favor frames with at least some slope. Of course, I ride 'cross bikes about 95% of the time, so sloping top tubes are common. Now that I think about it, all the true road bikes I have are horizontal.
  • 07-26-2004
    MShaw
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Walrus
    Admittedly, I'm a bit difficult to fit, since I have a longish torso and shortish legs (damn my Irish ancestors!), so I tend to favor frames with at least some slope. Of course, I ride 'cross bikes about 95% of the time, so sloping top tubes are common. Now that I think about it, all the true road bikes I have are horizontal.

    I'm built the same way.

    Both my road bikes are compact frame bikes now.
    So is my cross bike.
    So is my mtn bike.
    So it my track bike.

    I'd have to vote: COMPACT!

    M
  • 07-26-2004
    Dave Hickey
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by midlife_xs's
    Which one will you choose when buying a road bike? Sloping or the standard *horizontal* toptube?....Thanks.


    I've owned both. It is purely a fashion choice. It makes no performance difference.
  • 07-26-2004
    AIE
    My pov
    Sloping looks nice on frames < 56cm
    Horizontal looks nice on frames > 56cm
  • 07-26-2004
    bimini
    Probably sloping
    Not because of the geometery but because most of the reasonably priced light weight racing frames have moved to that geometery (Specialized, Giant, Cannondale)

    I will be getting a new (slightly used) light weight racing frame on ebay and noticed that the prices for the Caads, TCRs and E-5 are within reach of what I am willing to spend on a light, stiff racing frame.

    As long as the location of the seat is correct in relation to the BB and the handlebars in relation to the seat who cares what the top tube angle is.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by midlife_xs's
    Which one will you choose when buying a road bike? Sloping or the standard *horizontal* toptube?....Thanks.

  • 07-26-2004
    freezin_is_the_reason
    Strange, I'm just the opposite
    Long legs and short torso. Curse my Irish ancestors.

    The sloping top tube works for me as well. Must be pretty versatile.
  • 07-26-2004
    TrailNut
    depends: what ever fits
    horizontal looks better, but sloping may fit better
    my road bike's horizontal, but my MTBs are sloping
  • 07-26-2004
    rePhil
    I like my 3 degrees
    Carl Strong put a 3 degree slope on my road bike. Gotta love the tig or fillet for that.
  • 07-26-2004
    sandiegosteve
    Horizontal on the road.

    Sloping on the trail.
  • 07-26-2004
    Len J
    For looks or fit?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by midlife_xs's
    Which one will you choose when buying a road bike? Sloping or the standard *horizontal* toptube?....Thanks.

    For looks, I think horizontal looks better.

    For fit, I personally like a 2 degree slope, which allows me to Have a slightly longer headtube reducing the need for spacers and/or riser stem to get the Bars to a more usable height for a non-racer like me. My Bars are about 1 cm below the saddle and I spend 40+ % of my time in the drops.

    I don't like compact frames at all.

    Len
  • 07-26-2004
    terry b
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by midlife_xs's
    Which one will you choose when buying a road bike? Sloping or the standard *horizontal* toptube?....Thanks.

    8 horizontal (colnago, colnago, colnago, casati, strong, pegoretti, sampson, pinarello)

    5 semi-sloping (bianchi, fondriest, vanilla, kirk, gunnar)

    1 sloping (orbea)

    I have evolved to really like the looks of a little bit of slope (hence my choice for 2 custom bikes with that configuration.) But that preference would not keep me from buying the right bike with a horizontial TT in the future.

    Really sloping though, well that one would have to be very special. I bought my Orbea, mainly for the paint job (2002-2003 Euskaltel) and a potential future purchase would have to grab me as much as that one did.
  • 07-26-2004
    j-son
    short legs + long torso = sloping top tube
    On a sloping top tube frame, I have clearance and a decent amount of seat post showing. On a horizontal top tube, I have neither. is this a huge deal? No. But all other things being equal, I prefer the sloping TT.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MShaw
    I'm built the same way.

    Both my road bikes are compact frame bikes now.
    So is my cross bike.
    So is my mtn bike.
    So it my track bike.

    I'd have to vote: COMPACT!

    M

  • 07-26-2004
    bsdc
    I like semi-sloping. Not too horizontal. Not too compact. But juuuuuuust right.
  • 07-26-2004
    Nessism
    Me too
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsdc
    I like semi-sloping. Not too horizontal. Not too compact. But juuuuuuust right.


    About 4 degrees looks "just right" in my opinion.
  • 07-26-2004
    Cory
    Got two of each; can't feel a difference.
    nmnmnmnm
  • 07-26-2004
    Akirasho
    Aesthetically, I'm Old Skool
    ... got many of one and one of the other... and "feel" no difference that I could link to sliping top tube and/or compact frame design...

    Ironically, my first introduction to a sloping top tube was on my old circa '96 Cannondale F 500, which in my size, only has a relatively mild slope... back then, it was a relatively radical approach even on a MTB. Today, you're hard pressed to find a true horizontal top tube within this kind... even if you include "hybrids".

    ... so what do you call the top tubes on bikes like the Specialized Tarmack?