What model of Canyon Aeroad? Or something different?
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    What model of Canyon Aeroad? Or something different?

    Hello,

    I am currently pretty set on getting a Canyon Aeroad, unless someone can steer me elsewhere. Budget is preferably under $5k (ouch that hurts to even type it).

    So it should seem easy, but I just cannot make up my mind about which version.

    7.0 which is 105, no aerocockpit, rim brakes, but $3k

    8.0 which is Ultegra mechanical, aero cockpit, rim brakes, $3,600

    8.0 Disc which is Ultegra mechanical, aero cockpit, disc brakes, $4k

    So what is making it hard is not really the disc vs. no disc, but the fact that I will most likely need to swap out at least the cassette, chain, derailleur and possibly the cranks, or just the cranks. I am in the mountains and as much as I want to live Rule #5 every minute, I struggle with some climbs now with a 11-32 and 50/34.

    So I was thinking maybe I would swap out the cranks for a Stages power meter and then swap the cassette and chain. This would probably only happen if I bought the 7.0 or 8.0.
    The disc version would just get a cassette, derailleur, chain swap.
    The Stages and RD, Cassette would all be Ultegra

    Thoughts?

    Thank you for the feedback

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    You live in the mountains,why the Aeroad ? Why not the ultimate or giant Tcr? And yes,discs all the way,at least they will come at hand..
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    Throw the velomi-not-i crap out the window. The guy who started it is a POS. Buy a bike that fits your needs, not his ego.

    If you live in the mountains, a compact is fine. Get some gearing that you will ride and enjoy.
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    I'm not really sure what you are looking for here.

    You are going to hear from people who hate disc brakes and people who love disc brakes. They are both right and they are both wrong.

    No one here can tell you which you will prefer. They both have their pro's and cons.

    One thing to consider is wheel compatibility. If you have (or plan to have) multiple bikes, and plan to swap wheels between them, they all need to be the same axle type (12mm TA, 9mm QR, 15mm/12mm TA, and same size rotors, etc...)

    If you're a one bike kind of guy or gal (sorry, I really can't relate to this), you should probably go with the higher end version of the Canyon. I say this from experience that the higher end builds generally have great value on the wheel sets. My Endurace CF SLX 8.0 Disc Di2 came with a set of Reynolds Assault LE wheels (rebadged Reynolds AR 41X DB), and they are a fantastic wheel for an OEM set. If the same holds true for the Aeroad, I'd let that sway your opinion.

    As far as the component groups go, functionally, there isn't going to be a lot of difference between 105, Ultegra and even Dura-Ace. Even Shimano will tell you that Ultegra is the sweet spot for enthusiasts. I doubt you could tell the difference between the two in day to day use. If you want Ultegra get Ultegra. If you want 105, get 105.

    And any modern SHimano groupset (105/Ultegra/Dura-Ace) with a GS derailleur will support an 11-34. You might need to make a small b-screw adjustment.

    Lastly, having been through the Canyon purchase process, I'll warn you, it's not for everyone. If you are good at troubleshooting and maintaining you own bike, and understand the limitations in terms of support for the 'online only' business model, then go for it. If you are one to take your bike to a shop for basic maintenance and troubleshooting, you might go somewhere else.

    When I bought my first Canyon, I had some issues with the RD. I consider myself a pretty good bike mechanic, and went through all of the troubleshooting. I finally, at Canyon's suggestion, took the bike to a shop. They couldn't specifically identify the issue, but confirmed the symptoms. Ultimately, after some insistence on my part, I returned the bike for a replacement. The replacement has been fine. I suspect the first bike may have had a slightly bent or twisted derailleur cage, as the hangar was straight, and the issue disappeared when I swapped RDs. For me, this wasn't a terrible experience, other than having to re-box the bike and ship it back. If I had purchased locally, the shop would have likely warrantied the RD and sent me on my way.

    I find local shops don't really appreciate Canyon's business model, and might not be very enthusiastic about helping you. Fortunately, I'm in pretty good standing at my local shop, and they were pretty cool about helping me troubleshoot.


    Edit: after looking at the build specs on the current Canyons, it seems they are not spec'ing the same wheels, so my comments above may not reflect the current situation. Be sure to check the specs on this. If you don't like your wheels, and have to replace them, that could be a significant cost to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastazione View Post
    You live in the mountains,why the Aeroad ? Why not the ultimate or giant Tcr? And yes,discs all the way,at least they will come at hand..
    Great question.
    The first reason is because any of the Ultimates I would buy are the same weight as the Aeroad, so why not get the aero advantage?

    Also the lowest Ultimate SLX is Di2 and since they only sell a mechanical version of the frame I am assuming the Di2 battery is housed in the seatpost, not the frame. I just sold my Di2 bike because it had the battery in the seatpost and that doesn't work with my rack set up (long story).

    I could get the Ultimate SL 8.0 Disc and save quite a bit of $$$, but I would end up buying aero wheels anyways so it wouldn't be that much and again the weight is the same. Cassette is only an 11-30 so I would still need to swap out something, either cranks or RD/Cassette.

    Finally, I love the look of the Aeroad. The Ultimate just looks like a road bike to me.
    That TCR Advanced 1 KOM is a sweet deal, but I wonder about the brakes. Would still need to get some new wheels and don't really like the color. The other ones are just a little outside my price range.

    P.S. the Rules are the Rules. How seriously people take them is up to them. I mentioned it as a joke, mostly saying I wish I could be strong enough to push a Semi-compact 11-28 up the hills.
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    Finx,

    Thanks for the feedback. All three of the Aeroads come with Reynolds AR wheels. The 8.0 Disc come with 62/58 while the other two come with 58/58. That is kinda what is making it tough. If I had to upgrade the wheels from the 7.0 or 8.0 then it would be easy, 8.0 disc all the way, but...

    I am not a one bike guy, except with road bikes. So I am trying to make this all fit.

    I am pretty good mechanically, but had a similar situation with a Ribble I bought. Could not diagnose the issue with the rear derailleur. Sent a new frame eventually. My philosophy is I pay for work that needs doing that I can't do. If you don't like the bike I bring in then send me away.

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    Pretty sure all Canyon Di2 bikes have the battery mounted using a bracket inside the down tube just above the bottom bracket.

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    I'm not seeing your issue? What will you ultimately end up with for gearing? If you are putting on smaller chainrings and a larger cassette, you may not have to mess with the chain? New RD for sure if you want to go higher than the 11-32. Why do you need a new crank when you can just swap rings? And for power, stages will work on the Ultegra crank.

    I have last year's 8.0 SLX disc and love it. Not the lightest bike in the world, but I'm sure the 62mm deep wheels don't help.

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    dcorn,

    Thank you for the reply. I guess even though I said it isn't about the disc brakes, it really is. Not in the sense of if I want disc or not, because I do, but if discs, ultegra, and aero cockpit are worth $1k, especially if I need to swap out a derailleur and at least rings.

    BTW the reason I would swap over the whole crank is because at least the ultegra r8000 crank is close to the price of both rings. About $160 vs $200.

    So I am leaning back to going 105 and swapping out the crank and RD for ultegra. I can do the cassette, chain, and RD for about $150. I can also put in a power meter for less than the 8.0 disc

    One thought that I have now, since looking at the Ultimates that Devastatione mentioned, is get the Aeroad 7.0 (swap out some parts), then also buy the Ultimate 7.0. It would come in a little over my budget, but now I have a aero bike and a more all round racing bike.

    Wheels would be swappable so I could put the AR 58s on the Ultimate if I chose to.
    I could also later get some lighter hoops to drop the ultimate's weight. I actually have a set of wheels right now that would drop a pound from the Askiums.

    This also goes into the compatibility realm now though. I am paying for outdated tech. If I buy a gravel bike it will most likely come with 12x100 and 12x142, so then these road bikes aren't compatible.

    Head hurts from thinking about this, but doesn't two bikes sound fun?

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