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    Lyrics vs. Songs

    Is it weird if some of my favorite lyrics are from songs I don't particularly like overall? Not the entire lyrical content, just a line or a verse or something that connects. I'm not going to give examples, not looking for a lyrical quality pissing contest, just wondering if it's odd.
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    Music is malleable and in the mind of the listener. Not to start your abovementioned contest, but I was surprised how differently this cover affected me based on the lyrics.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP View Post
    Is it weird if some of my favorite lyrics are from songs I don't particularly like overall? Not the entire lyrical content, just a line or a verse or something that connects. I'm not going to give examples, not looking for a lyrical quality pissing contest, just wondering if it's odd.
    I never particularly cared for the Eagles but this part from Already Gone about eating lunch by yourself I thought was insightful about the little mundane things of breaking up.


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    One line from a song that resonates with me is from Simon and Garfunkel's The Only Living Boy In New York - "I get the news I need on the weather report"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanE View Post
    One line from a song that resonates with me is from Simon and Garfunkel's The Only Living Boy In New York - "I get the news I need on the weather report"
    Excellent ^^^^ was my second or third thought. The other was Serge Gainsbourg, Je T'aime,...Moi Non Plus as second but below, my favourite.


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    I love good lyrics.
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    okay, first what it weird is two people have mentioned "The Only Living Boy In New York" in the context of "songs I don't particularly like overall". Are youz frigging nuts? That's a great song.

    Pina Colada is one example but a lot of those 70's AM hits that are quite cheesy in overall sound have pretty good lyrics IMO. Brandy (you're a fine girl) is another example.

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    Ö everybody sing along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Strongbow View Post
    okay, first what it weird is two people have mentioned "The Only Living Boy In New York" in the context of "songs I don't particularly like overall". Are youz frigging nuts? That's a great song.

    Pina Colada is one example but a lot of those 70's AM hits that are quite cheesy in overall sound have pretty good lyrics IMO. Brandy (you're a fine girl) is another example.
    Sometimes Cohen never connected but in lyrics only. I have a very, very tough time in language but when lightening strikes, the rhythm means zero. In comparison [no pun] love Gordon Lightfoot, If You Could Read My Mind in comparison but meaningless to Cohen. Lightfoot, a lovely melody but not so much from Cohen. Deeper meaning with Cohen in lyric.

    An example, hate the song, love the lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
    Sometimes Cohen never connected but in lyrics only. I have a very, very tough time in language but when lightening strikes, the rhythm means zero. In comparison [no pun] love Gordon Lightfoot, If You Could Read My Mind in comparison but meaningless to Cohen. Lightfoot, a lovely melody but not so much from Cohen. Deeper meaning with Cohen in lyric.
    Love that Lightfoot song. Kind of a shame he's know to most only for Edmund Fitzgerald because that song sucks by any measure, but a lot of his songs are very good I think.

    I like a lot of James Taylor lyrics too despite not liking his voice or the overall sound very much.

    A lot of Jim Croce songs might fit in here too. New York's Not my Home especially. The lyrics really hit me but I could do with out the music for sure.

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    Before I go off on a wild horse, the song melody I hate the most, the very most in melody -but lyrics wise HITS closest to home, is Harry Chapin. And I've caught myself being "that" son.

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    Some great examples, which is why I didn't give any examples. I wasn't really thinking of deep, meaningful lyrics in the general sense. Stuff most would recognize as great lyric writing. I was thinking more of a line or verse or something from a song that connects to me personally. To many/most others it may be "meh, just some lyrics" or even "man, that song sucks" and I may even agree with that sentiment in general but I'll still listen to the song if it comes on because there's something in it that connects to something from my life experience. Even if it's just one line that reminds me of a time or place, good or bad, and perfectly nails how I feel about that moment.
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    Doesn't seem weird in the least to me. Just as it wouldn't be weird to find a passage or sentence that really grabs you, in a book that you otherwise didn't like much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCavilia View Post
    Doesn't seem weird in the least to me. Just as it wouldn't be weird to find a passage or sentence that really grabs you, in a book that you otherwise didn't like much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP View Post
    Is it weird if some of my favorite lyrics are from songs I don't particularly like overall? Not the entire lyrical content, just a line or a verse or something that connects. I'm not going to give examples, not looking for a lyrical quality pissing contest, just wondering if it's odd.
    I'm sure it's happened for me but I can't think of a single example. I'm just too thick-headed.
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    Spinal Tap - Hell Hole

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    And I don't think I ever can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akirasho View Post
    It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. The End.

    Call me Ismael. Everyone else dies. The End.

    In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. That about catches you up. The End.
    If those are meant to be illustrations of my point, and that means you don't really like "Moby-Dick", I can only say I pity you for your poor taste.

    "Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."

    I know, that sounds a lot like "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn." Coincidence.

    BTW, it's "Ishmael."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCavilia View Post
    I know, that sounds a lot like "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn." Coincidence.

    BTW, it's "Ishmael."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
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    An example, hate the song, love the lyrics.

    Blame Gerry Coffin and Carole King on both counts, it's their song, written for these guys:



    I'm not particularly a JT fan, but his cover points out how hard it is for an artist to cover an iconic tune and make it their own.
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