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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
    To me it's senseless to reiterate the old adage of anything as being mid-life crisis. When you're a teenage [young adolescence] you have very limited income and tons of dreams of owning some very cool stuff. Somehow, you waiver through early teens just in awe of stuff you could never even think about owning.

    You go to college or trade school or work your way up in an industry or retail/sales and land a rust bucket. You still dream about those cars, boats and trucks you saw as a child.

    Then you marry, maybe not, but there is a whole slew of sh!t that you're obliged to acquire, manage and control ...none of them are dreams of cars, boats or trucks you drooled on as a child.

    Then after your children make their way on their own, weddings, college, their first homes and maybe grandchildren you get a bunch of idiots calling you all kinds of names because you've worked really fawkin hard for something you've thought about since 10 years old.

    And there's your Corvette, or 60 foot sloop or monster truck. And you're old. But it took a lot of fawkin' sweat and work and concentration to obtain a goal that was almost lost and gone so many times. Here it is, yours, a dream from your childhood, earned and now reality.

    So I don't buy into the whole "mid-life" anything. It takes you half your life to get to a place where you can actually afford this sh!t.

    Enjoy it when you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
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    that doesn't look any better than the C6 interior
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    Quote Originally Posted by froze View Post
    It's also why my car collection consist of not the likes of typical muscle cars that are popular like the Camaros (though I do have 79 but only because I got a great deal on it, though I will probably being selling it, already sold the HP engine I had in it), or the Mustangs, or Chevelles or Novas etc. Instead mine consist of 58 Plymouth Fury 350 Golden Commando; 63 Studebaker Avante Supercharged; 67 Galaxy 500 convertible; and lastly but not really a classic is a 72 Chrysler Newport. All kind of unusual cars you don't see a lot of even at shows or cruises I've been on.
    I'm with you on that. I have a Chevelle convertible, but not the 70-72 which is the most popular, but I also have a Buick GS400, an Austin Healey 3000 Mk III, and a Honda CRX. I like the cars you don't often see. Next one will be some kind of 50s car but not a tri five Chevy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy69 View Post
    that doesn't look any better than the C6 interior
    That was my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy69 View Post
    I'm with you on that. I have a Chevelle convertible, but not the 70-72 which is the most popular, but I also have a Buick GS400, an Austin Healey 3000 Mk III, and a Honda CRX. I like the cars you don't often see. Next one will be some kind of 50s car but not a tri five Chevy.
    Out of the bunch listed, the Honda CRX hands down is the best bang for the buck. You're using it in SCCA sanctioned events. It's a great car and getting rare, not to mention, like the Datsun 510, many people had or knew someone who had one. Great conversation piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy69 View Post
    that doesn't look any better than the C6 interior

    Looks are subjective, I think the 911 interiors look, feel and smell great and are somewhat in the spirit of the original 911s. The major complaints with the Corvette interior is that they used cheap plastics, parts bin components from economy cars, and the seats were flimsy. In later years they tried masking some of the plastics with leather, but the car still wreaked of glue and and the touch points were still parts bin stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katy Trail B View Post

    As some one that could have a 911 Turbo or A Vette I have chose the Vette every time! I like the 911 as a long time Sports Car racing fan but the money! Sorry The interior is nice but not that nice. The Corvette Interior is a minus but with the aftermarket and some good interior companies out there you really can change to a very high end feel. I love to work on things myself also. Let's see a $48,000 engine for a 911 or a $8,000 ZO6 motor. The GT2 and GT3 are track oriented cars for sure also and they are even more harsh on the road than a ZO6! The 911 is also a great looking car and basic shape has always stayed true. It is a great car but that is way to much coin.
    There are some really good aftermarket companies out there specialising in Corvette interiors. There's a lot you can do saving $40,000-$80,000 dollars. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy69 View Post
    I'm with you on that. I have a Chevelle convertible, but not the 70-72 which is the most popular, but I also have a Buick GS400, an Austin Healey 3000 Mk III, and a Honda CRX. I like the cars you don't often see. Next one will be some kind of 50s car but not a tri five Chevy.
    Is your Chevelle the older mid 60's models? I use have a 66 Olds Cutlass convertible with a 330 cubic inch engine with a 2 speed auto, it was pretty cool car but I sold it to get the 58 Plymouth Fury about 36 years ago...I still have the Fury as mentioned earlier but wish I kept the Olds but at the time I didn't have money for one without selling the other. But I learned my lesson and that was to start keeping my older cars.

    I use to owned a few British cars but not all at once. I had a 59 MGA which was the poor mans version of the Austin Healey 3000 you have, those body designs of those two cars was my favorite of all the roadster styles along with the Cobra AC, but typical of all the British cars they were very unreliable. Then I had the 73 Lotus Europa JPS, the most fun car of the few I had. Then a 74 Triumph TR6 which was the most reliable of the British jobs I owned but still highly problematic. Then I strayed and went to Italy (not literally) but got a 85 Alfa Romeo Spider, which I should have kept because it ran good with few problems; then strayed to other side of the world and got 81 Nissian 280zx turbo. While the 280Z was by far the most reliable it wasn't a convertible (T-Top) and I didn't like the body style like the others I had, they were also common which lost it's appeal. That 280zx was the most reliable modern era (post 1979) car I've ever owned though, sold it with over 280,000 miles on it and the turbo I6 engine still ran as smooth as a fine Swiss watch and never used oil.

    I love small sports cars, I may get another one, looked at 99 BMW Z3 in town recently but the seats have a hard lumbar support which hurts my lower back that I injured. So I'm looking for a used 85 to 89 Alfa Romeo again with very low miles and see how that works with my back, but I kind of want something with a bit more power, but I will considering it, and I'm familiar with the mechanicals which is a huge plus for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulser955 View Post
    This showed up on the news feed on my phone last night. I didn't know Chevy was working on a new corvette. I have never liked corvette every time I look at them I see the old 70s cars. I can't say I really like any of the American sports cars. When you compare them to the the European cars like Porsche, Ferrari, lotus and Mclaren they are always 3 steps behind. But I have to say This might change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse D Smith View Post
    Ferrari 599XX. Look familiar?
    I don't know I look at it and see a poor man's F12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eretz View Post
    That was my point.


    Out of the bunch listed, the Honda CRX hands down is the best bang for the buck. You're using it in SCCA sanctioned events. It's a great car and getting rare, not to mention, like the Datsun 510, many people had or knew someone who had one. Great conversation piece.
    It's fun, and it was reasonably priced. If I were to build my own car, I would build something else, if for no other reason than I'd like something where parts availability is less of a problem. It would be fun to race showroom stock with a Cobalt SS (GMs completely overlooked little pocket rocket) or maybe set it up as IT with some suspension mods, but the price would be a little high for my taste. But if I wreck this one, which is not a big possibility now but will be more so when I start wheel to wheel racing, unless I can find a cherry low mileage body the car is done. I have half a mind to find one now, just in case . It's a great car for learning to race though, that's for sure. I doubt it will be my last race car.
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    The new corvette looks amazing. They did a great job with the styling. Cant wait to see in person when it comes out.

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    Geez...not seeing how some of the cars you guys think those cars look anywhere similar. Rear of the Camaro? Vague hints of a rectangular taillight design, that's about it. The Ferraris? Underbody diffuser, which is common on many sports cars, and hints of side vent similarity. Not getting much further than that.

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    Can stand the new corvette i want a C5

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapdragen View Post
    Nope. Still want this.

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    Meh...
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    Someone commented that America never made any good looking sports cars, I have to refute that. America has made some fantastic sports cars, the Ford Sheby AC Cobra was world renown, the Ford De Tomaso Pantera, Ford GT, Saleen S7 probably the best of the modern America sports car, Dodge Viper though that one is a little to cartoonish for my taste but not bad, Shelby Ultimate Aero, Bosley GT Mark 1, pre 1974 Corvettes; there have been some exceptional sports cars made in America.

    Problem is with the American public is most of us like larger cars so cars like the Pontiac GTO, Firebird, Chevy Camaro, Ford Mustangs, Dodge Challenger and Charger, etc were considered sports cars to us but not in the European sense. I tend to lean toward how the Europeans think that a sports car should be and that's why the ones I listed are true American sports cars in the European vein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froze View Post
    Someone commented that America never made any good looking sports cars, I have to refute that. America has made some fantastic sports cars, the Ford Sheby AC Cobra was world renown, the Ford De Tomaso Pantera, Ford GT, Saleen S7 probably the best of the modern America sports car, Dodge Viper though that one is a little to cartoonish for my taste but not bad, Shelby Ultimate Aero, Bosley GT Mark 1, pre 1974 Corvettes; there have been some exceptional sports cars made in America.

    Problem is with the American public is most of us like larger cars so cars like the Pontiac GTO, Firebird, Chevy Camaro, Ford Mustangs, Dodge Challenger and Charger, etc were considered sports cars to us but not in the European sense. I tend to lean toward how the Europeans think that a sports car should be and that's why the ones I listed are true American sports cars in the European vein.

    The AC Cobra and Ford GT40 are British designs and the DeTomaso Pantera is Italian, though they did have American motors in them




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    America has produce some really nice sports cars over the years. The Kaiser Darrin; Ford Shelby AC Cobra, Bosley MKII; Ford De Tomasa Panteria; Ford GT; pre 1974 Corvettes; Saleen 7; Aero something I can't recall the name. (I may have the names incorrect but I don't have time to look these up). But the American public prefers larger cars so we call cars like the Mustang, Camaro, Firebird, GTO, Challenger, Charger, Thunderbird, etc sports cars, and the reason the others never really caught on except for the Corvette, and to a far lessor degree but in second place the AC Cobra was the fact that Americans just don't like the small euro style of cramped sports cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froze View Post
    Is your Chevelle the older mid 60's models? I use have a 66 Olds Cutlass convertible with a 330 cubic inch engine with a 2 speed auto, it was pretty cool car but I sold it to get the 58 Plymouth Fury about 36 years ago...I still have the Fury as mentioned earlier but wish I kept the Olds but at the time I didn't have money for one without selling the other. But I learned my lesson and that was to start keeping my older cars.
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    1969. In popularity most to least (from a poll on Team Chevelle):

    1970
    1967
    1966
    1869
    1965
    1972
    1968
    1971
    1964
    1973


    I haven't sold an old car since 1998. I regret selling that one just about every day.

    The only circumstances under which I will sell one of the ones I now have are if we need the money for something important like school tuition or health related somethings. Fortunately there are a lot of things I own that I can sell first. It would be a tie between the Healey or the Buick for which goes first. The Chevelle would be last and there is no point in selling the Honda I'd only get $1000 for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loona View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by froze View Post
    America has produce some really nice sports cars over the years.
    I agree, but keep in mind main-stream hi-po was 1/4 mile focused for decades, geez these guys even raced backwards in reverse. LOL

    I love the 1/4 era. Love the mid and full size American iron of the 50's, 60's and early 70's. Amazing stuff. Some very beautiful work.



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