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    So is sleep actually necessary?

    I've always viewed it as a luxury item but I'm beginning to wonder. I've been busy juggling the catering company with my newly acquired position at a local restaurant for the past few weeks. Seemed simple enough. Turn over the bulk of the catering work to the sous and take the job I've wanted for a long time as a pastry chef with full creative freedom. It sounded good on paper anyway. All I know is [email protected]%# I'm tired.
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    unfortunately yes. i'm not a big fan of sleeping but it does seem to be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robdamanii
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    I went a few weeks with about 3 or 4 hours a night and I started thinking and talking like this too.
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    I wonder. As one get's older the need for sleep increases while the ability decreases. As an insomniac, its one of those questions I spend a bit of time worrying. I am currently running on or about 4 hours a night for 4 or 5 weeks right now. I suffer from both types of insomnia. Cant fall asleep and early waker. Sleep is a wonderful thing when you can get it, but you would be supprised how little you can get by on. I have noticed that decision making can be a challenge when sleep deprived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP
    I've always viewed it as a luxury item but I'm beginning to wonder. I've been busy juggling the catering company with my newly acquired position at a local restaurant for the past few weeks. Seemed simple enough. Turn over the bulk of the catering work to the sous and take the job I've wanted for a long time as a pastry chef with full creative freedom. It sounded good on paper anyway. All I know is [email protected]%# I'm tired.
    uh, if you're deprived of sleep for a long enough time, you die. I think that makes it necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by estone2
    uh, if you're deprived of sleep for a long enough time, you die. I think that makes it necessary.
    Yeah, I wasn't being literal. I realize sleep is a requirement of life. What I should have said is: how far can you push the lack of sleep/rest envelope and remain competently functional? That seemed a bit long winded for a thread title though. I got 7 hours of sleep last night and, for the first time in weeks, no restaurant or catering today (except a little menu work which can be done from the comfort of the couch with a football game on) so I'll be completely recharged and not know the answer to that question.
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    supposedly a human can successfully acclimate to no less than 4 hours a day of sleep. but that sure would be tough on the body and mind to get used to.
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    I did about 5 hours of sleep a night for about 9 months (first year of law school while working).

    After I started getting a full-nights sleep again, the world felt like it went from black and white to color. I've decided that brains just don't work well without sleep.

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    I find that with 6+ hours I can function properly, but I prefer about 7.

    There were a few days in the past year where I only had a few hours of sleep:
    - driving back from Washington after the inauguration to Boston
    - attending u2 concert and being stuck in traffic for 3 hours
    - driving back to Boston after 'Sox game vs. Yankees

    On those days I chose to have my students (I'm a teacher) watch a movie or two.

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    I remember reading of a few cases where the person slept very little if at all. Most sleep deprived folks start micro--napping, which can happen at the most inconvenient times. I remember falling asleep standing several times in med school, including during surgeries I was watching. From what I recall full blown psychosis is about 72 hours sleep deprived hours for most of us. Less deprived states just impairs memory, judgement, and coordination....which medical residency training seems not to prize (Actually, I understand things are getting better thanks to some lawsuits).

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    I really value my shut eye. It's hard to balance study time and sleep time in grad/professional school, but I always give in to sleep; if I must choose between an extra hour or two of studying or getting a full nights rest, I'll always choose the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmunny19
    supposedly a human can successfully acclimate to no less than 4 hours a day of sleep. but that sure would be tough on the body and mind to get used to.

    The BODY actually needs zero sleep to function fully, just sitting around is enough rest for the body. The brain is the weanie that needs to sleep.

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    I used to think sleep is overrated.
    I tried to get by with 5 hours when I was very busy with my job.
    I did not want to lose 1/3 of my life by sleeping it away.
    It turns out that I was really sleep deprived when I tried to get by with only 5 hours a night.

    I am so much happier and brighter with 7 hours of sleep per night.

    There is scientific research which shows that people that get 8 hours come down with colds 1/3 as many times as people that sleep 7 hours per night.
    So, sleep if necessary and the amount of sleep appears to be important in the functioning of the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP
    Yeah, I wasn't being literal. I realize sleep is a requirement of life.
    If you want to frequent a board that discusses sleep, you can click here.




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    I fall asleep pretty quickly but after 2 hours, generally awaken and toss and turn until I can't stand it anymore and get up. HOWEVER The night before last and last night I don't remember rolling over....I am/was as tired as i have ever been in my life after the few weeks stress and travel that I have had. Sleep is NOT underrated.......I want more...
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    Sleep is about the best indicator of my happiness in life. Chances are that if I am getting 8hrs a night and having no problem falling asleep every night, life is good and I'm happy. If I am getting less than 6hrs or having a hard time falling asleep something bad is happening or going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New_World_Man
    Sleep is about the best indicator of my happiness in life. Chances are that if I am getting 8hrs a night and having no problem falling asleep every night, life is good and I'm happy. If I am getting less than 6hrs or having a hard time falling asleep something bad is happening or going to happen.
    Indeed.....this morning I didn't hear my wifes alarm go off, hear her shower or leave for work. This would be the first time in 4 months that I was not awake by 4 or 4:30.....I didn't get up until 7:00 , a TRUE indicator of life returning to a more normal status
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    Quote Originally Posted by LWP
    I've always viewed it as a luxury item but I'm beginning to wonder.
    I function well enough on ~6 hours a night without feeling tired. A night or two of 4 or 5 hours of sleep is O.K. but more than that and I start feeling it. It seems odd but if I get a "good" night's sleep, which for me would be about 7 - 8 hours, I'm almost always dragging that day.

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    How much sleep you need depends upon who you are sleeping with.
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    total sleep deprivation

    There's a very rare inherited condition known as "fatal familial insomnia." The symptoms don't appear until middle age, but when they do, the person becomes totally unable to sleep, and dies in a year or two, after a very unpleasant time. Here's a description from the Wikipedia article:

    The disease has four stages, taking 7 to 18 months to run its course:

    1. The patient suffers increasing insomnia, resulting in panic attacks, paranoia, and phobias. This stage lasts for about four months.
    2. Hallucinations and panic attacks become noticeable, continuing for about five months.
    3. Complete inability to sleep is followed by rapid loss of weight. This lasts for about three months.
    4. Dementia, during which the patient becomes unresponsive or mute over the course of six months. This is the final progression of the disease, and the patient will subsequently die.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia

    I've read that when these people take sleeping pills, they don't sleep, but they have vivid hallucinations -- like dreaming while awake. Very freaky. Since it's always fatal, and you have a 50% chance of getting it if one parent has it, it would have disappeared if it came on earlier, but it doesn't usually show up until after people have already had children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nealric
    I did about 5 hours of sleep a night for about 9 months (first year of law school while working).

    After I started getting a full-nights sleep again, the world felt like it went from black and white to color. I've decided that brains just don't work well without sleep.
    Our mental alertness comes from the last few hours of sleep in a 7 & 1/2 to 9 hour sleep cycle. Cutting off time from that reduces our mental health considerably. That's why there are so many grumpy people these days.
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    I have a 13 year old dog who sleeps in my bed. He's started getting up 5 or 6 times a night to readjust and build a new nest in the comforter. It is destroying my life.

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    last two nights I've gotten 2hrs both nights due to inability to fall asleep. Massive work related stress/drama won't shut my brain off enough to let me crash. Either I'm going to just crash tonight, or wind up going insane tomorrow.

    I know we just met and this is crazy....

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