Who's a big-time Vegas-style gambler here?
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    Who's a big-time Vegas-style gambler here?

    I've lived in Nevada for 30+ years, but rarely go into a casino--maybe once a year to a restaurant or see a show. Like a lot of locals (a majority, I'm sure), I don't gamble at all, not even a nickel in the slots at the grocery store.
    The last couple of days I've had visitors from out of town, and of course they want to belly up to the tables. Man, I HATE that. I don't understand the attraction at all. They got sort of miffed when I took them inside the Eldorado, showed them where things were and said I'd see them in the morning: "Well, don't you want to visit with us?"
    Not particularly, to be honest. But I REALLY don't want to stay up until 2 in the morning watching you play roulette or shoot craps, knowing all along that you're inevitably going to lose. It doesn't interest me for two minutes...
    Somebody who likes that stuff, 'splain what the attraction is. I mean, thank God you're out there paying my taxes for me, but WHY?

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    I am with you 100 % I don't get it at all. My wife likes to occasionaly go with her mom to play nickel slots at the Indian owned casino in Tampa.I refuse to go. I have worked too hard to put my money in a slot (of that sort)
    And somewhere there's an explanation to the sounds of a casino. That really drives me nuts. Is all that dinging supposed to make someone spend more?

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    why do you hate gamblers?

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    No gambling here either. No point throwing money away. I don't drink either, but that's honestly because I don't like the "alcohol" taste, and not for any moral reason.
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    I've never seen the attraction, but my BIL is a very enthusiastic gambler. He goes to the casinos at Tunica quite frequently. Vegas a lot less. I don't get it, but he always comes back happy, so who am I to say there's anything worse in him dropping a pile of money at a card table than my wife and me spending the same on a nice restaurant dinner or opera tickets? Either way, the next morning you've got nothing to show for it but the memories.
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    It is fun...I love vegas...enjoy the rush.

    If you don't get it don't go. I cannot for the life of me figure out why someone would like watch cars race around in a circle for 5 hours...but at the same time, I don't start threads or place myself in the middle of every Vegas thread...with the same 30 years...blah...blah...don't understand...yada yada...we get it...you don't like Vegas. Get over yourself already...somethings you will just have to go to your grave not understanding...for me...it will be math...for you evidently it will be Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsmybush
    Get over yourself already...
    I don't understand your point. I posted that I don't get it, my brother in law does, and I don't see any reason why my taste for opera is any better than his taste for gambling. Isn't that pretty much exactly what you said, only substituting Nascar for opera?

    What exactly do you think I should get over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsmybush
    It is fun...I love vegas...enjoy the rush.

    If you don't get it don't go. I cannot for the life of me figure out why someone would like watch cars race around in a circle for 5 hours...but at the same time, I don't start threads or place myself in the middle of every Vegas thread...with the same 30 years...blah...blah...don't understand...yada yada...we get it...you don't like Vegas. Get over yourself already...somethings you will just have to go to your grave not understanding...for me...it will be math...for you evidently it will be Vegas.
    Why do you hate math?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredke
    I don't understand your point. I posted that I don't get it, my brother in law does, and I don't see any reason why my taste for opera is any better than his taste for gambling. Isn't that pretty much exactly what you said, only substituting Nascar for opera?

    What exactly do you think I should get over?
    It wasn't directed at you...just the thread's original post.
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    <----- raised in Vegas and I hate gambling. I think though growing up here is the reason for my disdain. All my friends from out of state cant give enough money to the casinos but i think its because they never could before. Can't complain too much, casinos are paying for my college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cory
    I've lived in Nevada for 30+ years, but rarely go into a casino--maybe once a year to a restaurant or see a show. Like a lot of locals (a majority, I'm sure), I don't gamble at all, not even a nickel in the slots at the grocery store.
    The last couple of days I've had visitors from out of town, and of course they want to belly up to the tables. Man, I HATE that. I don't understand the attraction at all. They got sort of miffed when I took them inside the Eldorado, showed them where things were and said I'd see them in the morning: "Well, don't you want to visit with us?"
    Not particularly, to be honest. But I REALLY don't want to stay up until 2 in the morning watching you play roulette or shoot craps, knowing all along that you're inevitably going to lose. It doesn't interest me for two minutes...
    Somebody who likes that stuff, 'splain what the attraction is. I mean, thank God you're out there paying my taxes for me, but WHY?
    For people from outside NV I think it's a little bit of fun and the possibility of winning is always there. It's just entertainment. You pay to go to movies, concerts, etc. I get to LV about 2x a year for work and gamble a bit b/c it is fun and social. I lose my $500 or so over the week and am over it. I have even "won" a few times.

    I can't believe you just left your out of town friends b/c of you disdain for gambling. That just sounds rude. I understand you aren't interested in gambling. That is like someone being into baseball and not football, if your friends are in town and they like it, suck it up and do what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredke
    Either way, the next morning you've got nothing to show for it but the memories.
    Can't you say that about almost anything recreational (maybe that was your point...)? The opera? Skiing trip? Dinner with friends? Trip to the circus? Amusement park? A bike ride?

    I don't gamble beyond like...$10 or $20. You're going to lose. The casinos wouldn't do it if you weren't going to lose. I'm pretty sure most people know that-- just like they know that a lighter bike won't make a night and day difference in climbing ability. I don't understand gambling, but I'm not going to judge anyone for doing so (unless of course its an unhealthy addiction... ). Who am I to tell someone how to spend their money?

    Look man. I don't like baseball. In fact, I find it bloody boring. Probably just as you find watching your friends lose their money at the craps table. But I'm sure as hell going to find a way to have fun with my friends at the game if thats what they want to do.
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    You can't take it with you when you die...

    When I 'played' I used to play $1,000 hands of Pai Gow. I believe Pai Gow has the highest push rates... Anyway, catching a lucky streak and walking away with $35K of house money can be quite a rush. Of course, the odds are always in favor of the house, and when you beat teh house, well that's something. I always loved watching the pit boss' faces when you take them for some serious change...

    Knowing when to walk away is key. If you can't figure that out then you're screwed.

    If you let it become a problem then it sucks for everyone... The locals like Cory always see the ones who lose their homes and destroy their families...etc.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cory
    I've lived in Nevada for 30+ years, but rarely go into a casino--maybe once a year to a restaurant or see a show. Like a lot of locals (a majority, I'm sure), I don't gamble at all, not even a nickel in the slots at the grocery store.
    The last couple of days I've had visitors from out of town, and of course they want to belly up to the tables. Man, I HATE that. I don't understand the attraction at all. They got sort of miffed when I took them inside the Eldorado, showed them where things were and said I'd see them in the morning: "Well, don't you want to visit with us?"
    Not particularly, to be honest. But I REALLY don't want to stay up until 2 in the morning watching you play roulette or shoot craps, knowing all along that you're inevitably going to lose. It doesn't interest me for two minutes...
    Somebody who likes that stuff, 'splain what the attraction is. I mean, thank God you're out there paying my taxes for me, but WHY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzer2424
    Can't you say that about almost anything recreational (maybe that was your point...)?
    That's it. I don't see any reason to put my recreation on a pedestal and someone else's in the gutter just 'cause I like different things.
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    I truly do not understand the appeal of slots, but a lot of people seem to like them, so hey, whatever.

    I love playing blackjack, and usually I can make $100 last for a couple of hours, and usually quit when I'm ahead. Except the last time I played, when my illusions of genius were badly shattered and I walked away down $500 after being sure I could "win it back" several times in a row.

    I love poker, too. I'm good enough to win in casual games, but never been serious enough at it to really figure out when a good player is bluffing. Wish I could - then I'd also be able to tell when people at work are lying to me. I tend to always give them the benefit of the doubt.

    I can definitely see how people can get addicted to the casino lifestyle, but after a couple of hours, all the noise makes my head hurt.

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    I'm not a bigtime gambler, but will be going to Vegas Memorial Day week. It is a fun place with a continuous festive atmosphere. The prices for lodging and food are low enough to offset some gambling losses, and if you sharpen your gaming skills you can do a pretty good job of defending your bankroll. I never play slots!
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    Vegas is definitely not my kind of town, and I don't get the appeal of going into smoky rooms and giving away cash. But, that said, I love going to events where they are doing "Casino night." With real money, I'm not interested. But with fake money, I am the highest of the high rollers. With fake money, I have a great time playing all the tables, living the dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohair_chair
    Vegas is definitely not my kind of town, and I don't get the appeal of going into smoky rooms and giving away cash. But, that said, I love going to events where they are doing "Casino night." With real money, I'm not interested. But with fake money, I am the highest of the high rollers. With fake money, I have a great time playing all the tables, living the dream.
    Oh, that would drive me nuts. People don't play the same if they don't have real money on the line.

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    Interesting discussion. I just finished reading the book 21 about the MIT blackjack team. Their method of constantly calculating the "quality" of the remaining deck and placing bets only when it was advantageous is about the only way I'd ever consider playing.

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    If you hate math, you really shouldn't gamble.

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