• 10-13-2009
    Har
    Wilier Izoard, What can you tell me...
    I am serioulsy considering this bike. I have been on a Klein Q Pro Carbon since 2003. Great bike, tons of miles but i am ready to try an all carbon frame. The Klein was ZR 9000 ALU with carbon stays and fork.

    New bike will be used for the Tues Thurs local hammerfests and 80 mile weekend rides on mostly flat terrain.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks,
  • 10-13-2009
    micuthegreat
    I would recommend the Wilier Izoard.
    I have yet to see an owner be unsatisfied with the Izoard.
    My previous bikes are an Azzurri Tigre full carbon and one of those Hasa ebay frames.
    The Izoard rides so much stiffer on the bottom bracket and the geometry is very well balanced between racing and comfort. Although it can be too aggressive for some as I can't picture anyone riding the Wilier in a upright position.
  • 10-14-2009
    sgt
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by micuthegreat
    I have yet to see an owner be unsatisfied with the Izoard.

    Ditto. I'm loving mine... every review and user I've seen rates this bike way above its price range.... We REALLY a need a separate Wilier forum...
  • 11-27-2009
    rcjunkie3000
    + 1 on a separate Wilier forum. Francois what do you say? :thumbsup:
  • 11-27-2009
    Dolamite
    Lets start a petition!!! I love my izoard!!!!:D
  • 11-30-2009
    trails-n-tarmac
    Great bike, love mine, stiff with a smooth ride.
    There WAS a problem with paint yellowing on a batch over a year ago, think mine might be one of them ;(
    Even so they are apparently being replaced.
    Anyone else heard of this or had experience?
  • 11-30-2009
    Dolamite
    Yellowing.
    I just recieved my new frame because of the yellowing. Purchased my original white/blu izoard in march 08'. You will start to notice the yellowing on the headtube or right under the seat along the top tube. Wilier-USA is great to deal with through your LBS. Love my new silver izoard!! They changed the white paint on all the bikes in order to correct the problem it is more like a pearl white now, looks great!! If you have the white/blu you will probably need to choose a different color. They don't make that color anymore.:)
  • 11-30-2009
    micuthegreat
    Dolamite, can we see some pictures? Hard to find some real life pics of the new color scheme of the Izoard.
  • 11-30-2009
    rcjunkie3000
    Look what I ressurected:

    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=131672 Too bad the blue frame isn't made anymore. It does look nice except for that clearcoat issue.

    Dolamite, I may be narrowing my color choice to silver/white/carbon. How much of the carbon is visible on the frame other that what is shown on the headset and the fork. Is there any more areas of "naked" carbon? I am thinking of going with silver because it is more of a neutral color and it does have some red highlights on the frame to match my wheelset but not too flashy red like the red frame.

    Do post photos... Please :cryin:
  • 11-30-2009
    Dolamite
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    Some Pics!!
    Here are some pics I took Before components. The only carbon you see is pretty much on the headtube and right behind a water bottle cage. I dont mind not seeing to much carbon my components will and some anyways.:D
  • 11-30-2009
    micuthegreat
    That looks damn sexy! Can't wait to see it all done up
  • 12-01-2009
    trails-n-tarmac
    Thanks Dolamite, Yeah great bikes, Hopefully Wilier UK will be as helpful.
  • 12-02-2009
    rcjunkie3000
    Thanks to Dolamite's photo. I got one coming in also. Just put a deposit for the frame. It looks great in person. Can't wait. :thumbsup:

    BTW, I emailed Francois and he said there could be a separate Wilier forum if there's at least 100 posts. I think there is more than that...keep posting! :thumbsup:
  • 12-03-2009
    Dolamite
    Sweet!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rcjunkie3000
    Thanks to Dolamite's photo. I got one coming in also. Just put a deposit for the frame. It looks great in person. Can't wait. :thumbsup:

    BTW, I emailed Francois and he said there could be a separate Wilier forum if there's at least 100 posts. I think there is more than that...keep posting! :thumbsup:

    Post the pics when you get it. Can't wait to see the different setups:thumbsup:
  • 12-03-2009
    rcjunkie3000
    Will definitely post photos. I hope the order doesn't take 4-6 weeks.

    Components-wise, most die-hard Italian frame guys may cringe when I say my build will consist of a full SRAM Red red gruppo, Rolf Prima (USA) Elan wheels and / or Reynolds wheels and a Ritchey cockpit. All those parts are coming from another bike I recently let go. Can't wait to ride, my test ride was awesome!
  • 12-07-2009
    Gorodetsky
    Finally got my izoard this week. Ordered it in July. 4 month wait for a 2010 XXL frame! So far it seems worth every moment of pulling my hair out watching the winter arrive. Comfortable but stiff and aggressive when required. Looks damn good too. Just need some more daylight.
  • 12-07-2009
    deerock
    Hey Izoard owners, have/had you owned and/or test ridden the Look bikes as well? Just wondering as I'm considering the Izoard along with 585 - they seem somewhat similar in most people's reviews (or so it seems?). I definitely like the Izoard looks, etc. but want a nice smooth ride along with great climbing. I climb a lot, and put in about 150+ miles as week at 44 yrs/185lbs/5'11".

    Thanks in advance.

    Derek
  • 12-07-2009
    NealH
    Get the Izoard.
  • 12-13-2009
    toonraid
    Look 585 is totally different as its lugged construction as opposed to monocoque - there are very few frame that are still manufactured using the lugged construction due to high cost of production such as Colnago EPS and Look 595 - pretty much all monocoque frames are very in asia but they lack the technical expetise to make the lugged construction.

    On road the main difference between the two is comfort - in lugged construction it is possible to fine tune the frame so its stiff to pedal and comfortable to ride down side being that its a little heavier than monocoque which is why top of the range Colnago & Look are heavier than ultra light weight monocoque frames such as Ridley Helium or Scott - in monocoque its almost impossible to have both so frames usually lean one way or the other i.e. comfortable and not so stiff to pedal or harsh and stiff to pedal.

    I have ridden my wife's 585 over a short distance (too small for me) and its very comfortable and effortless to ride but have not tried the Izoard. However I have some friends on Cento1 and Le Roi - Cento is great but they have problems with the compatibility of oversized BB with some chainsets (shimano, sram, fsa) - it seems that you need to glue the BB. As for Le Roi - my friend hated climbing in it and it has been commented by some reviewers that it has an odd geometry - his also suffered from discolouration - anyway i noticed LeRoi has been discontinued. Generally Izoard seems to be a strong performer in their line up.

    If it was me I'd go for the 585 as I have a feeling either prices will have to be increased or it will be replaced by a monocoque model - same lugged construction from Colnago, etc will set you back over 5k.
  • 12-28-2009
    Hank Stamper
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by deerock
    Hey Izoard owners, have/had you owned and/or test ridden the Look bikes as well? Just wondering as I'm considering the Izoard along with 585 - they seem somewhat similar in most people's reviews (or so it seems?). I definitely like the Izoard looks, etc. but want a nice smooth ride along with great climbing. I climb a lot, and put in about 150+ miles as week at 44 yrs/185lbs/5'11".

    Thanks in advance.

    Derek

    I haven't been on either.....and I'm not a bike expert but just some schmuck on the internet....so take this for what it's worth.

    But coincidentally I boiled it down the these two and I've done a lot of research myself. I like a lot of others also but needed to make it just two so I could get some focus. My research included a long talk with the owner of a high end bike shop that carries each that I trust. He's not just selling bikes as a business venture, he rides everything and it was clear he wasn't trying to sell me on over the other. So I took his imput seriously.

    Anyway, I came to the conclusion that the 585 is a better frame mainly because it would be a little stiffer in the BB area.

    However, although I'm powerful for a weekend warrior rider.....I'm not so powerful that I feel the Izoard would be lacking in that area for me.....or most anyone for that matter.

    So, I think which ever of these two a good fitter that I trusted said was right for me would be the better choice because I'd have all the frame I needed and then some with either.

    Then, assuming the fit was perfect for each (I haven't gotten to that stage yet). I'm leaning towards the Izoard. While I think the 585 is a better frame, the reason I'd lean to the Izoard is that I think the difference is minimal, possibly not material for a rider at my level, and with my budget being limited with the savings on the Izoard over the 585 (about $1000) I could get MUCH better wheels on an Izoard build thus getting a better overall bike for the same money.

    If money was no issue and I could pimp out either one with great wheels, and again assuming a perfect fit for each, I'd get the 585.
  • 02-02-2010
    labmonkey526
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hank Stamper
    I haven't been on either.....and I'm not a bike expert but just some schmuck on the internet....so take this for what it's worth.

    But coincidentally I boiled it down the these two and I've done a lot of research myself. I like a lot of others also but needed to make it just two so I could get some focus. My research included a long talk with the owner of a high end bike shop that carries each that I trust. He's not just selling bikes as a business venture, he rides everything and it was clear he wasn't trying to sell me on over the other. So I took his imput seriously.

    Anyway, I came to the conclusion that the 585 is a better frame mainly because it would be a little stiffer in the BB area.

    However, although I'm powerful for a weekend warrior rider.....I'm not so powerful that I feel the Izoard would be lacking in that area for me.....or most anyone for that matter.

    So, I think which ever of these two a good fitter that I trusted said was right for me would be the better choice because I'd have all the frame I needed and then some with either.

    Then, assuming the fit was perfect for each (I haven't gotten to that stage yet). I'm leaning towards the Izoard. While I think the 585 is a better frame, the reason I'd lean to the Izoard is that I think the difference is minimal, possibly not material for a rider at my level, and with my budget being limited with the savings on the Izoard over the 585 (about $1000) I could get MUCH better wheels on an Izoard build thus getting a better overall bike for the same money.

    If money was no issue and I could pimp out either one with great wheels, and again assuming a perfect fit for each, I'd get the 585.

    +1

    Also I realize this has to be a dead thread, but saw no response from the OP so I thought I drop in my 2 cents. FYI I own a 2009 Izoard. I love it. My buddy has a Look 566. He loves that. I've ridden both- ride is responsive on his, responsive on mine, but i think a bit more "forgiving" on mine which is what I wanted- plus better fit geo for me.
  • 02-02-2010
    rcjunkie3000
    2010 Wilier Izoard silver
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dolamite
    Post the pics when you get it. Can't wait to see the different setups:thumbsup:

    It arrived. It took a month and a half. Here's the final build with the SRAM Red group and Reynolds wheelset.

    https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...g/IMG_3582.jpg
  • 02-03-2010
    toonraid
    Look 585 is one fine comfy ride - some even complain that its not stiff enough in BB or Fork/HT, I couldn't imagine any frame being more comfortable without a huge drop in performance so if Izoard is more comfortable ..............
  • 02-03-2010
    deerock
    thanks my friend. I ended up purchasing a Time Razor (Vibraser) and absolutely love it. Izoard was among the top of the list, love that bike. Enjoy
  • 04-02-2010
    labmonkey526
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rcjunkie3000
    It arrived. It took a month and a half. Here's the final build with the SRAM Red group and Reynolds wheelset.

    https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...g/IMG_3582.jpg

    Sweet! I wish they had all white in 2009!