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    2011 pinarello

    Some new pinarellos including paris 50-1.5 can be found on link below:

    http://www.riogrande.co.jp/

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    Can anyone interpret?

    Interesting - so it looks like the Paris is coming back to life as a 50HM carbon version of the Dogma? I think I read elsewhere in this forum that Pinarello or Gita is announcing the 2011 lineup on July 19th, so we don't have to wait too long to find out for sure-unless Southpark cycles would care to drop a hint.

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    Not sure what others think but I wish Pinarello would stick with some consistency of their line-up. Whats wrong with a lineup of:

    Dogma - top of the line 'untouchable' 60HM1k
    KOBH - new addition, specialist bike
    Prince - top of the line 'acheiveable' 50HM1k
    Paris - traditional shaping 46HM3k
    Quattro - new moulds/allrounder ( I like the idea of this one to replace FP3,4,5,6etc) 30HM12k
    Then your entry level bikes such as FP1 & FP2 in Al/Ca mixes and components.

    My fear is the Pinarello name is getting away from it's foundations and being heavily influenced by high turnover, marketing and mass production. Other than sales hunger I cant see the benefit in the flagship model of one year being leapfrogged by a previous flagship from another year. Thoughts?
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    The new Paris looks more like the Prince than the Dogma. Seatpost is not aero and the fork looks less massive. I would bet that the Dogma has another year as the top dog. Maybe the Prince will come out of production for a couple of years. I am guessing - no inside info - but that seems to be the pattern over the last several years. I think the new models are seen at the time of the Grandfondo so it should be in a couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mccia
    The new Paris looks more like the Prince than the Dogma. Seatpost is not aero and the fork looks less massive. I would bet that the Dogma has another year as the top dog. Maybe the Prince will come out of production for a couple of years. I am guessing - no inside info - but that seems to be the pattern over the last several years. I think the new models are seen at the time of the Grandfondo so it should be in a couple of weeks.

    It's a bloody joke! I still haven't got my Dogma I have been waiting for on order since January. By the time I get it, it will be already old!

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    I just came across this thread and link and 2011 has definitely been on my mind . US reps have not seen anything yet.

    here is the tranlsations from the Japan site

    [PINARELLO 2011 information] Asymmetric Design & 30HM carbon All Round " Quattro" Appearance! Being announced as all round model which is optimum to the amateur rider combining the 30HM high modulus carbon which is optimum to Asymmetric Design and the amateur cyclist where the effectiveness is proven with DOGMA™60.1, is " Quattro" Is

    [PINARELLO 2011 information] finally revival! That PARIS with DOGMA™ 60.1 proved the superiority “Asymmetric System (left and right asymmetry)” with exhibited preponderant high performance with PRINCE CARBON as a racing model, adopting the “TORAYCA® 50HM carbon”, it is appearance.
    As for KOBH 60.1, the severe course where the road of the stone pavement is repeated when north European has the feature, weather which cannot be estimated classic race/lace in order to fight, the special motorcycle becomes necessary it received request from the team, with Team SKY was developed. KOBH 60.1 is the top range model of same [pinarero] as 60t super high modulus carbon fiber which uses the Nanoalloy technology ™ which is offered from TORAYCA® and DOGMA™60.1 which adopts the [pinarero] individual EPS moulding system.
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    T-Dog

    I am curious what Dogma are you waiting for. There has been short term open availability on Dogmas throughout the year and there may be some open stock currently. Maybe it is just due to particular color?
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    Here is a 'link' to a Japanese website with 'real' pictures of the 2011 Pinarello's: https://blog-imgs-42-origin.fc2.com/...hagi/pari1.jpg

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    oops! Try this 'link' instead: http://kamihagi.blog122.fc2.com/

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    I think the dogma looks much more aggresive than the paris. I even like the Opera over the paris.

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    More 2011 Pinarello pictures: http://www.bikefunn.com/

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    The Quattro seems to replace the FP3, the Paris the FP7. Obviously Pinarello goes back to name their bikes, as no one understands FP .. something. Even the Alu FP1 in 2010 was the FP2 in 2009.....

    The KOBH is ugly, not well balanced an totally unnecessary.

    For me, the Paris, Quattro and Prince as well look all too similar and the molds are more or less the same, only the carbon fiber is different. Forget about this asymetric thing.

    I agree with Oscarthegreat that a traditionally shaped, light Paris (as it was) would be highly desireable.

    I love Pinarello and stille ride my 2006 (!) F4:13 and wait every year for buying a new one, but no really breakthrough is expected to come, also in terms of weight. I mean, the Dogma is really nice, but has disadvantages too.

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    My fear is the Pinarello name is getting away from it's foundations and being heavily influenced by high turnover, marketing and mass production. Other than sales hunger I cant see the benefit in the flagship model of one year being leapfrogged by a previous flagship from another year. Thoughts?
    I agree and I also think it would be nice to see them offer some different geometries in their frames.

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    Best pictures yet of 2011 Pinarello!: http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/displa...PINARELLO2011#

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcycles
    T-Dog

    I am curious what Dogma are you waiting for. There has been short term open availability on Dogmas throughout the year and there may be some open stock currently. Maybe it is just due to particular color?

    The Casse DEspargne team one mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maximum7

    My fear is the Pinarello name is getting away from it's foundations and being heavily influenced by high turnover, marketing and mass production. Other than sales hunger I cant see the benefit in the flagship model of one year being leapfrogged by a previous flagship from another year. Thoughts?

    I agree and I also think it would be nice to see them offer some different geometries in their frames.
    I wouldn't be surpirse about them being sales hungry given the popularity of Pinarello's frame. I have seen some of our local boys, followers of Pinarello, changing their frames almost every season.
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    Grand Fondo is this weekend so there may be some shots showing up and keep an eye on Pinarello Italy's site starting Mondy. It sounds as some of the US show models will be in soon and potentially some for retail before what most would consider the end of summer. It only makes sense to me that Pinarello would do the same with the Dogma as the Prince. It only makes sense to pass the technology down to different bikes. As far as asymetric frameset there's not much to make sense of. There is more torque on the drive side of the bike. It only makes sense to design the frame in a way to compensate for that force.
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    wholy pics great find. I am definitely curious which models will be US bound. I doubt Opera will be imported. I saw one of the 20010 Leonardos that was a sample and it was beautiful though.
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    Here is the link to the 2011 Pinarello info. There also appears to only be one page in English. It seems that all of these should be imported into the US with exception of colors but i don't believe that info will be known until later this week.

    http://pinarello.com/eng/dogma_carbon_540.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcycles
    Here is the link to the 2011 Pinarello info. There also appears to only be one page in English. It seems that all of these should be imported into the US with exception of colors but i don't believe that info will be known until later this week.

    http://pinarello.com/eng/dogma_carbon_540.php
    Seems the Paris is the Prince but asymetric!?
    FP4 (Quattro) is FP3 but asymetric!?

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    Fp Quattro

    i am considering two bikes - the FPQUATTRO and the Trek 6.2. The Trek is a nice bike, however the FPQUATTRO stands out. Love the way it looks (was interested in the fp3)
    Looking for feedback on the FPQUATTRO - will be planning to do a test ride in Feb once the snow and weather gets a bit nicer

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    i got mine two weeks ago......very nice ride
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    Looks great - how would you rate the comfort?

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    What does FP stand for?

    Quote Originally Posted by steiger1
    Obviously Pinarello goes back to name their bikes, as no one understands FP ...
    When I picked up my FP3 at the factory in Trevisio I asked what "FP" stood for. I was told it refers to Familia Pinarello at least to all except Fausto who likes to think it refers to Fausto Pinarello

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    Asymmetric

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarTheGreat
    Seems the Paris is the Prince but asymetric!?
    FP4 (Quattro) is FP3 but asymetric!?
    All these Pinarello models have the "Asymmetric Rear System". Since both the FP3 and Quattro use the same 30HMK carbon, where are the differences between them? Subtle changes in geometry and new graphics?
    I love my FP3!

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