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    2013 Dogma 65.1

    Looks like Pinarello has made the dogma lighter! [email protected] IT! I ran the article through the translator and the new key features (which I can be wrong) are:

    -65T, lighter frame
    -Frame is compatible with both Electric and cable
    -New BB, Press fit bearing
    -New Headset bearings

    Anyone want a Dogma 2 frame set? BOB?

    http://csdaddy.blog11.fc2.com/blog-entry-918.html

    Source: Thanks to the Weight weenies forum.

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    Evolution, pretty much as anticipated. PF saves weight and makes for easier assembly. And making one frame compatible for electric and wire makes it more appealing to customers.
    This is what the Dogma2 should have been from the start.
    Good luck unloading your Dogma, I got one I want to get rid of too...
    Last edited by Cinelli 82220; 06-24-2012 at 05:44 PM.

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    Why get rid off your brand new rigs? To save a tiny bit of weight?

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    Damn!! Try selling your Dogma 2 and you will lose a lot of money. I love my Dogma 2, I'll buy another one later on. 70.1 LOL!! Also, Pinarello lower the price by $1000 on the Bob color Dogma 2 over 1 month ago.

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    The BoBs are on sale all over the place. When something is appealing because it is unique you don't make a ton of them! Every brand has a BoB now, it's ruined the appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    Why get rid off your brand new rigs? To save a tiny bit of weight?
    Different size and better fit. Weight difference is trivial and not a factor, though the new 65.1 might be noticably lighter.

    I really like my new one and plan on keeping it until I can't ride anymore.
    Last edited by Cinelli 82220; 06-24-2012 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinelli 82220 View Post
    The BoBs are on sale all over the place. When something is appealing because it is unique you don't make a ton of them! Every brand has a BoB now, it's ruined the appeal.
    I agree with you!! Every brand got the Bob color available. I wasn't happy Pinarello lower the price for the Bob color Dogma 2 only. But probably all the colors will be on sale very soon, since the Dogma 2 65.1K news is out.

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    Damn! Wasn't it just a year ago that they came out with Dogma 2? Now the Dogma 65.1?!!

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    Ok just spoke to my buddy who owns Gita.
    Wow was he surprised that the 65.1 was leaked so soon. So as soon as I told him to google it and he saw it he told me everything about it. So this is what he said pinarello is still getting thier carbon from toroya. And they are now using 65.1 and not 60.1. He said the real numbers have not been released on frame weight. But said keep in mind pinarello is not trying to push the lightest frame. Said there will be some more stiffness added in a few areas and new paint schemes. Biggest change is no need for a mechanical and electric bike now that they have it all in the new frame. Easier for stores to buy now. Besides that he said it will be marginally different. Bigger change next year. So don't go selling your dogma2 yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    Ok just spoke to my buddy who owns Gita.
    Wow was he surprised that the 65.1 was leaked so soon. So as soon as I told him to google it and he saw it he told me everything about it. So this is what he said pinarello is still getting thier carbon from toroya. And they are now using 65.1 and not 60.1. He said the real numbers have not been released on frame weight. But said keep in mind pinarello is not trying to push the lightest frame. Said there will be some more stiffness added in a few areas and new paint schemes. Biggest change is no need for a mechanical and electric bike now that they have it all in the new frame. Easier for stores to buy now. Besides that he said it will be marginally different. Bigger change next year. So don't go selling your dogma2 yet.
    Thanks for the info!! I guess a 2014 Dogma will be something to look forward 2.

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    Surprised they are continuing with the Paris considering its lack lustre sales
    http://csdaddy.blog11.fc2.com/blog-entry-920.html

    Bring back the Prince!

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    Ok just spoke to my buddy who owns Gita.
    Wow was he surprised that the 65.1 was leaked so soon. So as soon as I told him to google it and he saw it he told me everything about it. So this is what he said pinarello is still getting thier carbon from toroya. And they are now using 65.1 and not 60.1. He said the real numbers have not been released on frame weight. But said keep in mind pinarello is not trying to push the lightest frame. Said there will be some more stiffness added in a few areas and new paint schemes. Biggest change is no need for a mechanical and electric bike now that they have it all in the new frame. Easier for stores to buy now. Besides that he said it will be marginally different. Bigger change next year. So don't go selling your dogma2 yet.
    Sensible post. Even if the "new 65.1" Doggie was 100grams lighter (doubtful) would it really make a difference? For those of us lucky enough to have a Dogma 2 just enjoy it for the next few years and stop stressing about the latest and the greatest...

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    Hi!
    Does anyone know when new Pinarellos will be available to general population for order. I'm interested in FP Quattro Ultegra (2012 or 2013).

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    After september

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    Good link Deeyetoo.
    The frame looks similar but with a flattened section on the top of the top tube and the back of the seatstays. Another Kamm Tail, like Scott and Trek.

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    Last year, I pre-order the Dogma 2 in late July and my frame didn't come in until 2012 January.

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    I waited 8 months for my dogma2

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    I waited 8 months for my dogma2
    Wow!! I thought waiting 6 months was long, but eight months seem like forever.
    Last edited by AnthonyL88; 06-26-2012 at 09:49 PM.

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    Yeah. It was painfull

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    Thank you! I wonder what would be the waiting time for FP Quattro

    Of course, it is all speculations now, but based on the marketing leaflet from blog referenced above(2013 Pinarello Part 4) , there will be few groupsets available for FP Quattro, and the difference between 105 and Ultegra groupsets equipped bikes will be around $800, same wheels, and looks like the other components are also the same. Why such price difference in complete bike? The price difference between two groupsets in retail is only around $200.

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    That picture of the Dogma 65.1 THINK2 is the prototype and they say press-fit BB will not be adopted for production models.

    2013 Pinarello prices in Japan will drop significantly but it is due to Yen-Euro/USD exchange rate so in the rest of the world, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antihero77 View Post
    I waited 8 months for my dogma2
    Better to phone a few places in Europe and see what they have on hand.
    I tried ordering from LBS and it was a waste of time. I emailed Shinybikes two weeks ago and they got back to me in two hours with what they had in my size. Ordered my Cav 699, a week later it's on my doorstep.

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    Better video of the 2013 Pinarello lineup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XB3...yer_detailpage

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    I have to say I'm pretty disappointed by the 65.1 - the new Madone 7 series includes far more innovation than the Dogma and will undoubtably be cheaper too.

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