• 08-20-2011
    RC28
    So people cringe at "replicas" like these too?

    Factory Five Racing
  • 08-20-2011
    PsychoMike
    Report the fools who sell the stickers/decals too. Its mainly the International sellers that sell the decal kits.
    A few sellers on eBay.co.uk have fake decals for almost every manufacturer. Report report report
  • 08-21-2011
    merckxman
    Seller carbonxsports sells counterfeits with Pinarello images and says, "Pictures are all original. The bike will come exactly as shown in the pictures." Items 150639342779, 150590257574, 150648632981,
  • 08-21-2011
    merckxman
    Seller carbonxsports sells counterfeits with Pinarello images and says, "Pictures are all original. The bike will come exactly as shown in the pictures." Items 150639342779, 150590257574, 150648632981

    seller gobike88 is another one, item 330602812906

    Ebay rule is: "If an item has a company's name or logo on it, but it wasn't made or endorsed by the company, it's not allowed on eBay."
  • 08-22-2011
    enzo269
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by merckxman View Post
    Seller carbonxsports sells counterfeits with Pinarello images and says, "Pictures are all original. The bike will come exactly as shown in the pictures." Items 150639342779, 150590257574, 150648632981

    seller gobike88 is another one, item 330602812906

    Ebay rule is: "If an item has a company's name or logo on it, but it wasn't made or endorsed by the company, it's not allowed on eBay."


    330602812906 Has been pulled. I am sure the others have been reported..
  • 08-22-2011
    enzo269
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RC28 View Post
    So people cringe at "replicas" like these too?

    Factory Five Racing


    If I owned a real Shelby Cobra.. Yes.. I would cringe..
  • 08-22-2011
    AnthonyL88
    I reported all those frames being sold by CarbonXSports.
  • 08-22-2011
    RC28
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by enzo269 View Post
    If I owned a real Shelby Cobra.. Yes.. I would cringe..

    My point is that I don't see people calling the car magazines and asking them to pull the ads for these replicas.

    And, really, the fact that people have taken up wasting time reporting each and every one of these frames to Ebay to me is just hilarious.Way too much time on their hands. But, like I said, whatever floats your boat...
  • 08-22-2011
    merckxman
    More entertainment: 280726676690 (seller "bicyclecarbon")
  • 08-22-2011
    AnthonyL88
    160626231379, 160618239294, 160618238731, 160618239113, 250861283269, 300581210789, 250861283200, 250874344657, 300588431062, 250874110487, 370532859784
  • 08-22-2011
    notepad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    160626231379, 160618239294, 160618238731, 160618239113, 250861283269, 300581210789, 250861283200, 250874344657, 300588431062, 250874110487, 370532859784

    I'm pretty sure nude carbon frames doesn't constitute "counterfeit". Don't you think you're taking this a little too diligently? I hope you're being paid by Pinarello.
  • 08-23-2011
    merckxman
    cycling.yong is back with 330605026807
  • 08-23-2011
    malanb
    too much time to spend... I guess grumpy old dudes... let people buy whatever they wish
  • 08-24-2011
    AnthonyL88
    There are a boat load of fake Pinarello frames on ebay. The seller are using FULL CARBON on their title search and they don't even use PInarello anymore. Here are just a fraction of fake Pinarello frames being sold on ebay.

    180714379937, 180712621669, 300589761049, 170649846899, 260836674017, 200640829660, 190566590386, 200640773629, 190568932206, 250863108758, 300587531122, 200637973659, 180712613246, 190566953406, 260837193455, 170681207572, 190569313984, 190561731765, 180712210961, 200635175834, 260834018504, 260834028118, 300587520407, 200642423039, 170685872044, 250875894751, 250878690761, 260839990979, 170672510798, 200640829667, 190562716051, 200642422720, 250878690821, 200642422660, 190563675098, 200642422516, 250875894851, 200640126329, 200642423188, 190566951423, 190568588543, 170683781987, 260837193777, 200643176242, 200640126314, 200637281907, 180714323727, 200642422206, 200640421589, 250877001135, 200637640392, 180714824582, 250878690420, 190559193879, 200640421606, 250875893420, 250878690862, 190568588480, 170683715508, 250875893672, 180712210890, 190558797366, 250875894446, 180712120079, 190558838197, 190567263809, 200642422328, 260839991747, 250875894163,

    All reported to ebay.
  • 08-24-2011
    notepad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by merckxman View Post
    cycling.yong is back with 330605026807

    Wow, he does move those fast, last night there was 10 and today there's 2 left.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    There are a boat load of fake Pinarello frames on ebay. The seller are using FULL CARBON on their title search and they don't even use PInarello anymore. Here are just a fraction of fake Pinarello frames being sold on ebay.

    180714379937, 180712621669, 300589761049, 170649846899, 260836674017, 200640829660, 190566590386, 200640773629, 190568932206, 250863108758, 300587531122, 200637973659, 180712613246, 190566953406, 260837193455, 170681207572, 190569313984, 190561731765, 180712210961, 200635175834, 260834018504, 260834028118, 300587520407, 200642423039, 170685872044, 250875894751, 250878690761, 260839990979, 170672510798, 200640829667, 190562716051, 200642422720, 250878690821, 200642422660, 190563675098, 200642422516, 250875894851, 200640126329, 200642423188, 190566951423, 190568588543, 170683781987, 260837193777, 200643176242, 200640126314, 200637281907, 180714323727, 200642422206, 200640421589, 250877001135, 200637640392, 180714824582, 250878690420, 190559193879, 200640421606, 250875893420, 250878690862, 190568588480, 170683715508, 250875893672, 180712210890, 190558797366, 250875894446, 180712120079, 190558838197, 190567263809, 200642422328, 260839991747, 250875894163,

    All reported to ebay.

    Again, they're just nude carbon, don't see how they are fake, carbon dealers have been selling those nude unbranded frames for over a year now.

    Btw, what do you think of this? (from the Chinese carbon megathread in bike & frames)

    https://forums.roadbikereview.com/at...0-p1080015.jpg

    Looks good, non?
  • 08-24-2011
    AnthonyL88
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    The Pinarello Dogma Bob is basically a nude frame with a clear coat.

    So, it really doesn't matter if those fake frames aren't painted or got Pinarello on the frame. Pinarello got a unique frame design unlike any other bike company.
  • 08-24-2011
    notepad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    The Pinarello Dogma Bob is basically a nude frame with a clear coat.

    So, it really doesn't matter if those fake frames aren't painted or got Pinarello on the frame. Pinarello got a unique frame design unlike any other bike company.

    It does matter. It doesn't say Pinarello and those carbon frames aren't Pinarello, different chainstay, different headtube, different seattube, it is designed by somebody familiar with the companies who designed Pinarellos in Taiwan.

    No patent infringement, hence they've been on ebay for over a year now without problem.
  • 08-24-2011
    AnthonyL88
    Are you saying there are no patent infringement at all? Are you kidding me? All those criminals are illegally trying to exploit Pinarello by making all those fake frames. Do you think you'll win, if this was a real case inside a courtroom? I don't think so!!!
  • 08-25-2011
    Coolhand
    Moderator's Note
    Enough with the disparagement of other posters. Infractions and Posting vacations will be issued if needed. Stick to the point please.
  • 08-25-2011
    Cinelli 82220
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    Are you saying there are no patent infringement at all?!

    Anthony, do a Google search for "Hetchins curly frames".
    Wavy stays and forks, in many, many variations have been around for a long time. At least since the 1930s. They are not a new idea. Hetchins was not the only builder to use them.
    And no, I'm not trolling, I have a Dogma.
  • 08-25-2011
    AnthonyL88
    I was looking at some of the Hetchins frames, but the frames and forks look more like curves than wavy. By the way, never thought u were a troll with all the comments u posted.
  • 08-26-2011
    zacolnago
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    The Pinarello Dogma Bob is basically a nude frame with a clear coat.

    So, it really doesn't matter if those fake frames aren't painted or got Pinarello on the frame. Pinarello got a unique frame design unlike any other bike company.

    I haven't been a fan of the wavy Pinarello's, but have to admit that the Dogma 2 BoB is stunning.
  • 08-27-2011
    T-Dog
    These paint finishes look better than the real thing.

    GreatKeen Bike Sport Equipment Co.,Ltd
  • 08-27-2011
    AnthonyL88
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by T-Dog View Post
    These paint finishes look better than the real thing.

    GreatKeen Bike Sport Equipment Co.,Ltd

    I don't think the paint finishes is better than the real thing.
  • 08-27-2011
    RC28
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyL88 View Post
    I don't think the paint finishes is better than the real thing.

    They're not better than the original Pinarello framesets. I've had both a real one and a "replica" one right next to the other and the Pinarello paint is better...but for that kind of money, it better be!

    Having said that...they're VERY good, especially for what Greatkeen charges for the paint jobs. Somewhere around $30-$40 on top of the price of the naked frame.For that kind of money , they're excellent paint jobs...heck, I've seen some local pro painters that would charge several hundred for that and they wouldn't look as nice.