• 04-06-2013
    zion rasta
    Official Pinarello Dogma height vs size
    Please post your bike model, height, stem length, and frame size:

    Model Dogma 2 BoB
    Rider Height: 6'1"
    Frame size: 57.5
    Stem: FSA 120mm
  • 04-07-2013
    djrbikes
    Dogma2
    Rider Height 5'8"
    Integrated Handlebar
    51.5
  • 04-08-2013
    le_quiet_uno
    Official Pinarello Dogma height vs size
    Dogma 60.1
    Rider height - 5'9 or 175cm
    Frame size - 54cm
    Stem size - 90mm
  • 04-08-2013
    Donn12
    Dogma2 65.1
    Height 6'1"
    Frame 57.5
    Stem -work in progress currently 90cm -5 degree rise
  • 04-08-2013
    Spark
    Dogma 65.1
    Frame: 560
    Stem: 12cm / tip of saddle to C of bars 595cm
    Height: 185cm
  • 04-09-2013
    LouisVuitton
    Dogma 65.1
    Frame: 57.5
    Stem: 110mm
    Height: 6'3"
  • 04-09-2013
    ejabbale
    Dogma 65.1
    Frame: 54cm
    Height: 5'9"
    Stem: 90mm
  • 04-13-2013
    Sisbud
    Official Pinarello Dogma height vs size
    Dogma 65.1
    Frame: 51.5
    Height: 5'11"
    Stem: 100 mm
  • 04-15-2013
    shoegazer
    Dogma 65.1 Kobh
    Frame: 57.5
    Height: 6'3"
    Stem: 90mm
  • 04-26-2013
    ajima98
    Model Dogma 2 65.1 (Tdf 769)
    Rider Height: 5'7" (171cm)
    Frame size: 50
    Stem: 3T 120mm
  • 05-17-2013
    Michael15
    Model: Dogma 2 65.1
    Rider Height: 5'7"
    Frame Size 50
    Stem 3T 120mm
  • 05-17-2013
    zion rasta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zion rasta View Post
    Please post your bike model, height, stem length, and frame size:

    Model Dogma 2 BoB
    Rider Height: 6'1"
    Frame size: 57.5
    Stem: FSA 120mm


    I am not sure why everyone says that pinarellos "Run big".

    I am so happy I did not go one size down as recommended here. In fact, I would almost say the run small. The top tubes are short and what throws it off is the super long seat tube. I can probably ride a 130mm stem... The 57.5 (aka 59 seat tube) fits me well.
  • 06-06-2013
    Yangpei
    Model - Dogma 60.1
    Height - 5'10"
    Frame - 55cm
    Stem - FSA 100mm


    My 55cm Dogma fits me great with a 100mm stem. It is comparable in size to my 56cm Moots Vamoots CR and my Large Wilier Cento1.
  • 09-02-2013
    Lunden
    HELP NEEDED ASAP!

    Did all the research possible...but could only test ride a 55 Dogma 2 which was way too small. 57 quattro seemed good. LBS and Pinny dealer said I was 57.5 for sure. So I went with a 57.5 and I think it's just a fraction too big. If I switch to 56...will it be too small with much lower bar?

    Main problem is TT length. I have seat slammed forward and 80mm stem. Still feel I am reaching a bit...but just slightly. Aaargh. Standover is fine...even with curved tube.

    I'm 6' 3/4"...33.5" leg length (to floor, not inseam).
    Long in middle which I thought would make TT perfect on 57.5.

    Concern: I switch to 56 (and pay rebuild cost) and bar is too low. I prefer more relaxed position. 200 miles/week average.

    Return policy is that I need to act fast!
  • 09-02-2013
    Spark
    Hi

    I had the same question as you being 6'1" 560 or 575 but I went with 560 after studying
    stack and reach measurements.

    I have a BB-seat height of 81cm and require a 1cm spacer the make the drop to the bars comfortable.

    So to answer your question, if you drop a size your saddle will be approximately 4mm further back. So hardly noticeable in terms of aesthetics and if you use 20mm or more of spacers with the 575 frame you may need to run a positive angle stem or use another 15mm of spacers which would be nearly at or just over the limit for the frame (someone will confirm).

    Hope this helps your decision.
  • 09-02-2013
    Cinelli 82220
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lunden View Post
    I have seat slammed forward and 80mm stem.

    57cm frame and 80mm stem? Expect very twitchy steering. Definitely not relaxed handling.

    Can you try a Rokh? If not go for the smaller frame and a stem that angles upward.
  • 09-02-2013
    zion rasta
    Exactly - keep the 56
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Hi

    I had the same question as you being 6'1" 560 or 575 but I went with 560 after studying
    stack and reach measurements.

    I have a BB-seat height of 81cm and require a 1cm spacer the make the drop to the bars comfortable.

    So to answer your question, if you drop a size your saddle will be approximately 4mm further back. So hardly noticeable in terms of aesthetics and if you use 20mm or more of spacers with the 575 frame you may need to run a positive angle stem or use another 15mm of spacers which would be nearly at or just over the limit for the frame (someone will confirm).

    Hope this helps your decision.

    It does not sound like the other person is a racer so the 56 with a positive stem would be the ticket.

    Since I started this post I have made a few changes on my 57.5.

    I went to a zero setback post ($395 ouch!) and a 110mm stem and 20mm of spacers for long climbs. I still manage a 9cm drop.

    I have short legs, long torso. My saddle height is 78cm C-T and my reach is 550mm tip to bars. Note that I have the Arione CX saddle which has a long nose.

    I tried a 100mm stem but run out of space when getting aero. And feel cramped in the cockpit.

    I also dumped the Sram red crankset & BB for this set up:
    7800 DA crank arms
    Praxis chainrings, x10sl KMC chain
    DA 9000 BB

    Best crankset I have ever ridden. No shifting problems. Fast and precise as DA electronic.
  • 09-02-2013
    Lunden
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cinelli 82220 View Post
    57cm frame and 80mm stem? Expect very twitchy steering. Definitely not relaxed handling.

    Can you try a Rokh? If not go for the smaller frame and a stem that angles upward.


    Yup you got it. Twitchy is perfect word for steering. Basically manageable, but for this price "manageable" is not the right word. Feel like I've got to pay too much attention to the bike. Love the ride though.

    But you just confirmed my suspicions...switched to 110 stem again and difference was noticeable. More stable...but reach too long.

    There's only a 1cm difference in TT length between 56 and 57.5...anyone ridden a 56? And what size are you? Zero-offset post might help me run a longer stem on the 57.5 for steering and load, but stills feels like tinkering to make up for frame that's too big.

    Consensus seems to be 56 and bite bullet for rebuild. This is a big purchase for me...needs to be right.
  • 09-02-2013
    Lunden
    Thanks! Hugely helpful. At 6' 1" we're dead in the middle. But slamming seat and short stem is sure sign I'm trying to make a too-big frame work somehow. I think I'll switch...just what I was trying to avoid. Ugh. Probably will run a positive angle stem with spacers. Everyone here is SO helpful.
  • 09-02-2013
    Lunden
    Whoops forgot to address advice on Rokh. Couldn't find ONE within 3 hours to test. Only test was Dogma 55 -- small but amazing. Running positive stem on Dogma...vs. Rokh is great suggestion. Tour De France is not in the works anytime soon. I'm against the time-limit for return/exchange though. TT is biggest problem.
  • 09-02-2013
    Randy99CL
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lunden View Post
    Zero-offset post might help me run a longer stem on the 57.5 for steering and load, but stills feels like tinkering to make up for frame that's too big.

    I'm always surprised when someone talks of changing the offset of the seatpost to adjust the ETT.

    Isn't it true that you have to adjust the saddle to the right position first, and then play with the stem?
    The saddle is set according to your leg and femur length, knee angle, KOPS (if you want to use it) etc. There is only one perfect spot for your saddle and moving your butt forward or back from that ideal spot can create other positioning problems.
  • 09-03-2013
    Spark
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Randy99CL View Post
    I'm always surprised when someone talks of changing the offset of the seatpost to adjust the ETT.

    Isn't it true that you have to adjust the saddle to the right position first, and then play with the stem?
    The saddle is set according to your leg and femur length, knee angle, KOPS (if you want to use it) etc. There is only one perfect spot for your saddle and moving your butt forward or back from that ideal spot can create other positioning problems.

    Yes, this is true. The only things a zero offset seat post would achieve are the correct position for the rider if when using the setback seat post the saddle could not more any further forward and the aesthetics if it's on the limit.

    Moving the saddle forward to fit a longer stem or to shorten the reach clearly shows that the frame is the wrong size for the rider.

    A bike fit is highly recommend to achieve a the correct riding position.
  • 02-05-2014
    phildhom
    Hello,

    Want to buy Dogma 65.1 think 2. My length is 176 cm and current saddle height is 70 cm. I'm hesitating between a 50 cm and 46.5 cm frame. Can somebody give some advice
  • 02-05-2014
    le_quiet_uno
    Official Pinarello Dogma height vs size
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by phildhom View Post
    Hello,

    Want to buy Dogma 65.1 think 2. My length is 176 cm and current saddle height is 70 cm. I'm hesitating between a 50 cm and 46.5 cm frame. Can somebody give some advice

    Hi Phildhom,

    I have got a Dogma 60.1 in size 54 and running a 90mm stem.

    I'm about 175cm and saddle height is about 72.5cm. I think you might want to get fitted properly before you buy.

    If I have a chance to buy again, I'll go half a size smaller - 53.5
  • 02-09-2014
    phildhom
    Hello,

    I want to buy the same bike. I'm 1m75 and i have a saddle height of 70 cm. i seen that you have a 54 with a 90 mm stem. I had for myself a 50 in mind.Is a 54 not to big?