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    Pinarello Rokh

    Another new Pinarello mid-line frame set on the way

    https://www.bikerumor.com/2011/06/16...d-bike-coming/

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    The KOBH mold but with lower grade carbon fibre?
    A winner.

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    $3600 for Force (with Rival crank (?))???
    $4100 for Ultegra???

    = LOSE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    $3600 for Force (with Rival crank (?))???
    $4100 for Ultegra???

    = LOSE!
    How lose???

    Right now the FP Quattro is $3950 with Ultrgra and same 12k carbon. So with the Rokh, one pays $150 more for a smoother ride thats more forgiving to rough roads.
    The price difference is same with Force groupo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoMike View Post
    How lose???

    Right now the FP Quattro is $3950 with Ultrgra and same 12k carbon. So with the Rokh, one pays $150 more for a smoother ride thats more forgiving to rough roads.
    The price difference is same with Force groupo.
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    cannondale Six 1 w/ Dura Ace = $4300
    Six 3 w/ Ultegra = $3200

    Specialized Tarmac 3/ Ultegra = $3700
    Roubaix Comp Ultegra = $3200

    I could keep going w/ hundreds of better deals. I say "lose" b/c it's a bad deal for what it is (and so is the Quattro for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    cannondale Six 1 w/ Dura Ace = $4300
    Six 3 w/ Ultegra = $3200

    Specialized Tarmac 3/ Ultegra = $3700
    Roubaix Comp Ultegra = $3200

    I could keep going w/ hundreds of better deals. I say "lose" b/c it's a bad deal for what it is (and so is the Quattro for that matter).

    -Smarty
    Yeah but those you mentioned are Specialized and Cannondales... eeew

    But who cares, you're a frickin fool. Scroll up top...read "Manufacturer Forums>Pinarello"

    You gotta be truly an idiot to want to try turn a dedicated forum into a pi$$ing contest.
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    Don't feed the trolls

    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    cannondale Six 1 w/ Dura Ace = $4300
    Six 3 w/ Ultegra = $3200
    Specialized Tarmac 3/ Ultegra = $3700
    Roubaix Comp Ultegra = $3200
    I could keep going w/ hundreds of better deals. I say "lose" b/c it's a bad deal for what it is (and so is the Quattro for that matter).
    -Smarty
    ...and Scattante's are on sale for $1999.99 and have that "real Italian like" quality too...
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    Im not sure how my post is trollish...

    Quote Originally Posted by rhauft View Post
    ...and Scattante's are on sale for $1999.99 and have that "real Italian like" quality too...
    Indeed the Scattante is. So you can get anyone of those far east made bikes for those prices...I suppose if you think a Pinarello is worth it, then it is.

    I don't b/c there is nothing special in the Pinarello that makes me think it is worth more money than a compartively (or better) spec'd Specialized, Cannondale, or numerous other bikes. I do believe there is a difference between the Performance bikes and the others (even the Pinarello).


    -Smarty

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhauft View Post
    ...and Scattante's are on sale for $1999.99 and have that "real Italian like" quality too...
    Uh, Pinarellos aren't made in Italy either.

    That aside, I think my Prince has a phenomenal ride and I wouldn't consider buying a Specialized. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Indeed the Scattante is. So you can get anyone of those far east made bikes for those prices...I suppose if you think a Pinarello is worth it, then it is.

    I don't b/c there is nothing special in the Pinarello that makes me think it is worth more money than a compartively (or better) spec'd Specialized, Cannondale, or numerous other bikes. I do believe there is a difference between the Performance bikes and the others (even the Pinarello).


    -Smarty
    Just curious, have you owned a Pinarello Price carbon or a Dogma carbon? Because if you haven't, then your opinion isn't worth a piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoMontoya View Post
    Just curious, have you owned a Pinarello Price carbon or a Dogma carbon? Because if you haven't, then your opinion isn't worth a piss.
    If you think that the only way to have an opinion on a bike that is not a Prince or a Dogma is by having ridden a Prince or a Dogma, then your opinion can't be any better than mine...piss or not.

    -Smarty

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    Lowly Venge owner's opinion...

    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    I don't b/c there is nothing special in the Pinarello that makes me think it is worth more money than a compartively (or better) spec'd Specialized, Cannondale, or numerous other bikes.
    I don't have a Pina, but I wouldn't go into the Pina forum and insult those who do. If that isn't trolling then what is? And if not trolling, it's simply rude. If someone likes their bike then good for them, no matter what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinelli 82220 View Post
    I don't have a Pina, but I wouldn't go into the Pina forum and insult those who do. If that isn't trolling then what is? And if not trolling, it's simply rude. If someone likes their bike then good for them, no matter what it is.
    I didn't insult anyone and if you can point out where I did, I'd be happy to apologize. I said that I didn't think that the Rokh was priced very well.

    If you disagree, that's OK...I'm not sure why you get so worked up about my opinion that the Rokh is over-priced. But no where in this thread did I insult anyone or their bike.

    -Smarty

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    ^^this^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinelli 82220 View Post
    I don't have a Pina, but I wouldn't go into the Pina forum and insult those who do. If that isn't trolling then what is? And if not trolling, it's simply rude. If someone likes their bike then good for them, no matter what it is.
    Life is full of choices.
    Ducati's are amazing motorcycles but Kawasaki's make more HP.
    Ferrari makes amazing works of rolling art but Corvettes are nearly as quick for a fraction of the cost.
    Even Hyundai is making a 300hp sportscar. Different strokes for different folks.

    Just don't delude yourself by thinking you can barge into a Pinarello forum and tell us that Cannondale's are better because their cheaper.
    You clearly don't get it, or us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    If you think that the only way to have an opinion on a bike that is not a Prince or a Dogma is by having ridden a Prince or a Dogma, then your opinion can't be any better than mine...piss or not.

    -Smarty
    No, "Smarty". You can't opine on a Pinarello Prince or Dogma if you have no experience on one.

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    @ smartyiak. Do you know what an apple and an orange are? You can't compare them. The Six 1 and Tarmac are not in the category of bikes Pinarello is targeting with the ROKH. Further more the Roubaix with equal component build, is not the comp, it's the expert at $3700 and the ROKH comes with a better wheelset. Another bike that would fall in this line is the Cerevlo R3 Ultegra $4000. These bikes all are in the "Plush" category. The price points are all +/- $300/500. You get a better groupo here and a better wheelset there. But they are all so similar that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference other then the ride quality, if you are that finicky of a rider in the first place. Which 99% of the average riders can't tell the difference. Keep buying what you think is better then everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoMontoya View Post
    Uh, Pinarellos aren't made in Italy either.

    That aside, I think my Prince has a phenomenal ride and I wouldn't consider buying a Specialized. YMMV.
    It has been proven that one can own and enjoy both Pinarello and Specialized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrain View Post
    It has been proven that one can own and enjoy both Pinarello and Specialized.
    +1 Works for me
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    Anyhow, now that the disputes seem to be over, a comment was made waaay up the thread that this was a KOHB with different carbon. The KOBH has very distinctive geometry and I was wondering if this actually has the same geometry?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas0039 View Post
    Anyhow, now that the disputes seem to be over, a comment was made waaay up the thread that this was a KOHB with different carbon. The KOBH has very distinctive geometry and I was wondering if this actually has the same geometry?

    Thanks
    I haven't been able to find any hard data on geometry other than what the article states: "KOBH’s relaxed geometry and slightly longer chainstays"

    But one thing that surprises me that no ones noticed yet is the fact that this frame looks like it has a slightly sloping top tube

    I would doubt Pinarello would supply a 46.5 or w/e small size where the sloping starts for the photo op for the advert.

    We'll have to see how this transpires
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoMike View Post
    I haven't been able to find any hard data on geometry other than what the article states: "KOBH’s relaxed geometry and slightly longer chainstays"

    But one thing that surprises me that no ones noticed yet is the fact that this frame looks like it has a slightly sloping top tube

    I would doubt Pinarello would supply a 46.5 or w/e small size where the sloping starts for the photo op for the advert.

    We'll have to see how this transpires
    Thanks. One of the reasons I looked at Pinarello to began with is that they seemed to ignore the sloping top tube craze in favor of more size offerings. I cannot stand anything but a level tube.

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    Here's what I know about Pinarellos:

    Pinarellos are expensive, I cannot afford one, therefore Pinarellos must suck.

    Once I can afford one, my opinion may likely change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolhand View Post
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    It was said as tongue-in-cheek, I assure you. The sarcasm was definitely lost in translation; no insult was intended.

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