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    As Trump*s tariff yo-yo has recently shown, the Dow is too volatile and susceptible to the news of the day to be a decent predictor of much of anything. It's like those people who think "weather" is the same thing as "climate".
    Given his penchant for nicknames, and his aversion to reading, I've decided to shorten Donald J. Trump to it's essence: Dump*

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Just another boring day above 27,000. Don't be sad.
    Which means it's back to where it was 7 weeks ago.

    So? Is this supposed to mean anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Just another boring day above 27,000. Don't be sad.
    Everytime you gloat the market drops-couldn't you have waited until Monday or Tuesday next week so I could get more shares when VFINX posts Q3 dividends?

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    So the Dow is still lower than the day you created this thread (July 12)

    You're crowing, that the 30 large companies which comprise the Dow, have been stagnant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Just another boring day above 27,000.
    Not wrong...

    1/26/18 DJIA 26,616

    4/02/18 DJIA 23,344

    10/3/18 DJIA 26,951

    12/26/18 DJIA 21,712

    Hardly getting worked up about. The Dow is up 0.5% from Oct/18, 1.9% from Jan/18. During that time it dropped 12.5% and 19.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Just another boring day above 27,000. Don't be sad.
    I gather you don't know what inflation is or means....or like all Trump dwellers you just spout words and number you don't understand thinking you pwned the libs.
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    Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    I'm just countering Falsetti crowing about how bad the market is. He seems to enjoy pointing out when the market is down, so I'm pointing out when the market is back up.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    Of course since Trump is the current president, point out anything good is to be demeaned and discredited at any cost.
    Annualized return on the DOW since the tax cut at the end of 2017: 3,1%

    That is with massive deficit spending. Only bubble dwellers think this is "good".
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    I'm just countering Falsetti crowing about how bad the market is. He seems to enjoy pointing out when the market is down, so I'm pointing out when the market is back up.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    Of course since Trump is the current president, point out anything good is to be demeaned and discredited at any cost.
    So you are triggered to post nonsense when others post facts. Sad.

    Do you really think the market trading in a narrow range for almost two years is a good sign? Today the S&P closed about the same as it was in January of 2018.

    Explain how 19 months with no growth is something worth crowing about......of course you will not explain, just run away and hide.
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    Wow Trump couldn't keep up with Obama economics. MAGA
    I am 100% convinced the internet and social media are not the salvation to human civility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    Of course since Trump is the current president, point out anything good is to be demeaned and discredited at any cost.
    As usual you did not answer my question.

    Explain how 19 months with no growth is something worth crowing about. Given the way you cheer lead stagnation it should be easy for you.......but you just deflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    I think that the market rising from 25,897 when you posted, to 27,110 when I posted, is a good thing.
    It's only a good thing if you ignore the drops in the market. Day to day market movement is irrelevant. Trends in the market is what matters. Since early 2018 the markets have been moving sideways. And while Trump will tell you that he is presiding over the strongest market ever, he demands 0% interest rates (or negative) and is deficit spending massively to get what little he's received. Surely you can see that deficit spending by a trillion $ since 2018 and having 2.25% interest rates while going sideways does not predict or display market strength... regardless of the day to day gains or losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWC View Post
    It's only a good thing if you ignore the drops in the market. Day to day market movement is irrelevant. Trends in the market is what matters. Since early 2018 the markets have been moving sideways. And while Trump will tell you that he is presiding over the strongest market ever, he demands 0% interest rates (or negative) and is deficit spending massively to get what little he's received. Surely you can see that deficit spending by a trillion $ since 2018 and having 2.25% interest rates while going sideways does not predict or display market strength... regardless of the day to day gains or losses.
    Exactly.

    Being gleeful about 19 months of stagnation, while piling on debt, shows limited understanding of the market and macro economics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    That's because it's a stupid question. Why are you zeroing in on 19 months? Oh I know why, because that plays into your "the stock market is bad" narrative. Why not zero in on the entire length of the presidents term? Oh I know why, because that would show 32% growth. We can't have that, can we?

    As I said in my earlier post...

    Of course since Trump is the current president, point out anything good is to be demeaned and discredited at any cost.
    Thanks for proving my point You have zero understanding of macroeconomics.

    Trump gave a massive gift to corporations in the form of a tax cut. This tax cut was funded by a massive increase in debt. The companies used the tax cut for billions in stock buy backs and dividend payments, the result was a short term jump in the market. The market has digested it's sugar high and now trades in the same narrow range for 19 months.

    Explain why 19 months of stagnation is a good thing. Why are you so gleeful when so many experts are worried?

    Of course you will not answer, just more deflection followed by running away.
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    Letís not even discuss stagflation, it would make supraís Head explode

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Letís not even discuss stagflation, it would make supraís Head explode
    Given Trump's embrace of Venezuelan style monetary policy it would not surprise me if that happens.

    The Stans will blame Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    More blah blah blah about 19 months.... you'd certainly don't want to deviate from the talking points.
    They aren't talking points...it is history. You're wanting to talk about how great Trump is doing...blathering about how the stock markets have scarcely moved in 2 years is the rhetorical equivalent of you putting a gun in your own mouth.

    Of course....given the signs for all to see of a recession coming, you probably want to stop talking about the economy soon as the collapse appears to be coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    More blah blah blah about 19 months.... you'd certainly don't want to deviate from the talking points.
    Thanks for proving my point. You cannot explain why 19 months of stagnation is a good thing so you just blah, blah, then run away and hide.

    Fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    More blah blah blah about 19 months.... you'd certainly don't want to deviate from the talking points.
    That's funny... so the period immediately following Obama, when Trump had basically no policies in place, the stock market did well... and that's the period you want to focus on (other than the gain from yesterday of course). The last 19 months, when Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy & corporations went into effect, and his trillion $ deficit spending happened, and the markets went sideways with two 10% dips... that you want to ignore (other than yesterday's gain). The longer Trump is in charge, the further we get from Obama's policies, the worse the market does.

    The only things sustaining Trump's market today are a very low Fed rate & deficit spending. Can't wait to see what he'll do if a recession hits regardless of those 2 things... double the spending & negative interest rates? Should be interesting. My guess is he ends his tariff war and goes back to the status quo, claims victory because the market will rebound and you say that it's evidence of his greatness. He'll also continue to bully Powell to help him get elected, interest rates will fall and the market will see this as an initial good thing but long term it will be perceived as a sign of weakness. Regardless, a recession is around the corner. And yes, liberals cheer on a recession because they want it to come before the election to seal the deal for Trump. A recession will hurt the US people & the world far less than Trump will.

    (I guarantee you'll ignore that entire post, other than the last 2 sentences)
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    Quote Originally Posted by davesupra View Post
    The market rises and falls, it's the nature of the beast.
    The market rises and falls in the USofA primarily because the changing economic priorities that a 2 party system introduces. We have no economic stabilizing factor that a country with a coalition government of more diverse voices might have.

    Economic swings really hurt the middle class as most don't have the financial resources to weather downturns with sufficient capital to invest when the swing heads up.

    Rise of the middle class occurs with stable economies, not like in the USofA.
    Trump has goosed our economy while executing policies that guarantee a world-wide recession. Who will come out on top? - not the silent majority of Americans.

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    Dow up 175 on news of Trump's impeachment
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    Thatís hilarious!

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    The rich get richer:

    When asked why the rising economic tide has raised some boats more than others, Rodgers lists several factors, including the decline of organized labor and competition for jobs from abroad. He also cites tax policies that favor businesses and higher-income families.


    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/76465...g-to-a-new-gap
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    Quote Originally Posted by feh View Post
    The rich get richer:



    [/FONT][/COLOR]https://www.npr.org/2019/09/26/76465...g-to-a-new-gap


    The GOP trickle-down myth. Getting pissed on, and the GOP tells you it is rain. And people still espouse and believe in that nonsense.
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