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    China Can Wait.

    And in the meantime, Trump is being played for a buffoon.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/tar...-lose-the-war/

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    Declared unqualified to be President by most voters in 2016. Trump continue to prove them right, err, correct.

    Nevertheless I suspect many Americans (perhaps 38%) will spend as much time as it takes to light their cigarette on thinking about presidential politics and vote for the message they believe is true regardless of the facts. The carnival act living in the White House proves it.
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    So shortsighted. Good patriotic Americans will embrace the pain and the suffering for as long as it takes, because they know things will get even better in the end. Donnie says so, so it must be true. It'll happen. Any time now.

    Aren't you prepared to sacrifice a little for your country? Why do you hate America?
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    "The Chinese say, 'We can eat grass for a year—we're not going to be bullied into something that's not good for us.'"

    And that says it all. American's won't eat grass for a day.

    Xi Jinping is President for life. Trump is President for 2 yrs (6 tops).

    China has been implementing a patient long term strategy to replace the US as the top global power. They've been expanding globally, investing tens of billions in Africa.
    Xi’s vision for China is a ‘two-stage development plan’. In the first stage, from 2020 to 2035, the primary goal is to build on the foundations of China’s modern economy. In the second stage, from 2035 to 2050, China will seek to become a state with substantial global influence.


    China has a 20-50 year strategy. Meanwhile Trump is struggling to figure his strategy for tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post

    China has a 20-50 year strategy. Meanwhile Trump is struggling to figure his strategy for tomorrow.
    Trump is a day trader.
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    When it comes to this tariff war.. China has very little to loose, and a whole lot to gain. Where as the US has everything to lose.

    If China decided to restrict export of rare earth minerals.. or decide to ban US and US allies from purchasing them.. we would be back into the dark ages for a while, because they are used extensively in pretty much anything electronic.

    They don't need to buy American cars.. in fact, American cars are seen as a novelty in many cases, just ban the import of American cars.

    Now on the other side.. mostly everything American's manufacture, may be designed and researched locally, but is physically made in China (not everything, but a significant majority). China has us by the balls, and it is a bed of our making. Sure companies could move to another Asian country, but that would take time, you don't just stand up a factory with tooling to build an iphone, or a laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljvb View Post
    When it comes to this tariff war.. China has very little to loose, and a whole lot to gain. Where as the US has everything to lose.

    If China decided to restrict export of rare earth minerals.. or decide to ban US and US allies from purchasing them.. we would be back into the dark ages for a while, because they are used extensively in pretty much anything electronic.

    They don't need to buy American cars.. in fact, American cars are seen as a novelty in many cases, just ban the import of American cars.

    Now on the other side.. mostly everything American's manufacture, may be designed and researched locally, but is physically made in China (not everything, but a significant majority). China has us by the balls, and it is a bed of our making. Sure companies could move to another Asian country, but that would take time, you don't just stand up a factory with tooling to build an iphone, or a laptop.
    But Dear Leader said trade wars are easy to win
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljvb View Post
    When it comes to this tariff war.. China has very little to loose, and a whole lot to gain. Where as the US has everything to lose.

    If China decided to restrict export of rare earth minerals.. or decide to ban US and US allies from purchasing them.. we would be back into the dark ages for a while, because they are used extensively in pretty much anything electronic.

    They don't need to buy American cars.. in fact, American cars are seen as a novelty in many cases, just ban the import of American cars.

    Now on the other side.. mostly everything American's manufacture, may be designed and researched locally, but is physically made in China (not everything, but a significant majority). China has us by the balls, and it is a bed of our making. Sure companies could move to another Asian country, but that would take time, you don't just stand up a factory with tooling to build an iphone, or a laptop.
    Yuppers, been saying it for a few years.

    And what is more, thanks to intransigent my-way-or-the-highway extremist republicans and Fox News...the USA cannot even keep its government running for more than 6-12 months at a time for over a decade now. It is a problem now, but presents a real brain-drain problem in the future as do-gooder civil-servants give up trying to keep their jobs and go elsewhere due to the temp-nature.
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    Walmart announces today it must raise prices due to trade war.

    Do any voters shop at Walmart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljvb View Post
    When it comes to this tariff war.. China has very little to loose, and a whole lot to gain. Where as the US has everything to lose.

    If China decided to restrict export of rare earth minerals.. or decide to ban US and US allies from purchasing them.. we would be back into the dark ages for a while, because they are used extensively in pretty much anything electronic.

    They don't need to buy American cars.. in fact, American cars are seen as a novelty in many cases, just ban the import of American cars.

    Now on the other side.. mostly everything American's manufacture, may be designed and researched locally, but is physically made in China (not everything, but a significant majority). China has us by the balls, and it is a bed of our making. Sure companies could move to another Asian country, but that would take time, you don't just stand up a factory with tooling to build an iphone, or a laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    So shortsighted. Good patriotic Americans will embrace the pain and the suffering for as long as it takes, because they know things will get even better in the end. Donnie says so, so it must be true. It'll happen. Any time now.

    Aren't you prepared to sacrifice a little for your country? Why do you hate America?
    it is essentially the largest tax increase borne by the US citizens since 1990. Basically it undoes more than all the benefit of the tax cuts for the rich Trump has already passed.

    Kent Smetters of the Penn-Wharton Budget Model and a former Treasury official during the Bush administration, estimates that the tariff increase will cost the median U.S. household with earnings of $61,000 about $500 to $550 a year. It’s the equivalent, he said, of raising the Social Security retirement tax by 1 percentage point to 11.6%.

    Such a large revenue measure, according to Pomerleau, if it were a tax, would have been subject to considerable economic analysis from the Congressional Budget Office or the Joint Committee on Taxation for the potential effects on growth, inflation and jobs. No such analysis has been offered or is believed to have been conducted by the administration regarding the current tariffs.

    And the revenue measure is by far the largest enacted without congressional approval. Congress, in a series of laws, has ceded to the president vast powers to levy tariffs.
    China won't be affected, they are not paying it. And none of the goods being tariffed have a hope in Hades of being produced in the US for several times the price china charges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremerradkurier View Post
    California Uber Alles, Uber Alles California

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mounta...are_earth_mine
    A closed mine partly owned by the Chinese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Falsetti View Post
    A closed mine partly owned by the Chinese?
    The US gets 78% of their rare earths from China.

    MP Mine Operations LLC, the U.S. consortium that owns the Mountain Pass mine in California ships semi-processed output for refining in China, which plans a 10-percent tariff on these imports, rising to 25 percent next year.

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