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    ""In the aftermath of the devastating earthquake in Haiti, The Heritage Foundation's Jim Roberts suggests that President Obama needs to reach out to none other than Dubya himself to tackle the relief effort:


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    I'd have no problem with that, as long as he was a figurehead and didn't have to make personnel decisions.

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    post-choose-o-matic says

    Don't ex-presidents usually lead up major relief efforts?

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    Well, he's proven himself extremely adept at clearing brush.

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    Imagine a former President helping someone out....never heard of it before.
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    Sounds like a Heritage Foundation plan to rehabilitate Dubya's shattered image regarding natural disaster managment (see Katrina).

    Cool with so long as he doesn't have to make any important decisions. Or speak.

    Especially speak.
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    well when I think

    rapid and awesome disaster relief ole W is the first one who comes to my mind

    oh sorry I forgot the word FAIL in that thought

    can you imagine being a Haitian and seeing W show up
    "good lord, we are doomed"

    excuse me while I go roll up my sleeves
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    Wasn't Clitnon and Bush Sr involved in Tsunami relief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDon
    Wasn't Clitnon and Bush Sr involved in Tsunami relief?
    Yes, IIRC. So that's who Obama should tap to help in Haiti... they've done it before, and unlike Dubya don't have a history of farkin' it up.

    But for better or worse, I just read a report where he's already asked Clinton and Dubya to help.

    I forsee Dubya asking, "Who names an island 80??".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    Yes, IIRC. So that's who Obama should tap to help in Haiti... they've done it before, and unlike Dubya don't have a history of farkin' it up.

    But for better or worse, I just read a report where he's already asked Clinton and Dubya to help.

    I forsee Dubya asking, "Who names an island 80??".
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    It doesn't sound like there's anything he can mess up. It's more figurehead than anything really. He's good at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDon
    It doesn't sound like there's anything he can mess up. It's more figurehead than anything really. He's good at that.
    It's just CYA. It allows him to blame Bush for anything that either goes wrong or turns out to be over his head. That's what HE's good at.

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    The Heritage Foundation, ground zero for neoliberalism is back to its predatory ways with the Haiti tragedy, they disgustingly posted this below, but quickly took it out as perhaps someone told them it wasn't too nice:

    “Amidst the Suffering, Crisis in Haiti Offers Opportunities to the U.S. In addition to providing immediate humanitarian assistance, the U.S. response to the tragic earthquake in Haiti earthquake offers opportunities to re-shape Haiti’s long-dysfunctional government and economy as well as to improve the image of the United States in the region.”

    They're ready to shock again to plunder and take advantage of a fallen country, just like they did in Katrina and in India. This type of predatory capitalism stems from Milton Friedman, neo liberal doctrine:

    "Only a crisis, real or perceived can bring real change, and that change will depend of the ideas laying around"

    And more recently:

    "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
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    of course

    the heritage foundation sees this as an opportunity to expand the empire
    that is how they roll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corsaire
    The Heritage Foundation, ground zero for neoliberalism is back to its predatory ways with the Haiti tragedy...
    Wha? Heritage Foundation is 'neo-liberal'??? Is that a new phrase for 'hardcore conservative wingnut' these days?

    They've always seemed to be thus. Even they say they're cons:


    Our Mission
    To formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

    http://www.heritage.org/about/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    Wha? Heritage Foundation is 'neo-liberal'??? Is that a new phrase for 'hardcore conservative wingnut' these days?

    They've always seemed to be thus. Even they say they're cons:


    Our Mission
    To formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

    http://www.heritage.org/about/
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    Neo-liberalism was a term coined by a German economist in the late 1930's. In europe "liberal" as in government has a whole different meaning and is basically the opposite of how we view the term in the states. Neo-liberalism and the Chicago School of economic thought pushed for free market true laissez faire policy with no government regulation, no corporate welfare, and privatization of government functions. The Heritage Foundation would seem to add some neoconservative thought to the equation by supporting subsidies of the military industrial complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    Wha? Heritage Foundation is 'neo-liberal'??? Is that a new phrase for 'hardcore conservative wingnut' these days?

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    neo-liberalism uses the term "liberalism" in its original, Lockean sense. it's normally used in international relations (IR) circles, wrt int'l trade and commerce.



    -got yer Ted Kennedy liberals (liberalism as a political leaning).

    -got yer libertarian folks like (the late) Milton Friedman, who use the term classic liberalism (liberalism as a political/economic/social philosophy).

    -got yer folks who focus on IR issues, who use the term neo-liberalism to describe a particular regime of international trade and economic policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    Wha? Heritage Foundation is 'neo-liberal'??? Is that a new phrase for 'hardcore conservative wingnut' these days?

    They've always seemed to be thus. Even they say they're cons:


    Our Mission
    To formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.

    http://www.heritage.org/about/
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    Yup, neocons, ultra right conservatives, neoliberals, they're all that.

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    So why are we digging up dated terms? For style points?

    NTTAWWT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock

    So why are we digging up dated terms? For style points?

    NTTAWWT.
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    they're not dated terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bricoleur
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    they're not dated terms.
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    They do not appear to be burning up the airwaves.

    Or any of the political periodicals I peruse.

    To me, it's like calling someone a 'crypto-facist'... fun term, but not exactly on the tip of everyone's tongues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    They do not appear to be burning up the airwaves.

    Or any of the political periodicals I peruse.

    To me, it's like calling someone a 'crypto-facist'... fun term, but not exactly on the tip of everyone's tongues.
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    Because it's a double-edged sword that cuts both the liberals and the conservatives alike. Neither side wants the term associated with it. The liberals because it's a slap in the face, the conservatives because they don't want that word within a thousand miles of them.

    The term is still very relevant today regardless of the apprehension certain circles have in using it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock
    So why are we digging up dated terms? For style points?

    NTTAWWT.
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    Not a dated term, just different. When discussing pro-market international plundering it is definitely on the tip of the tongue...Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock

    They do not appear to be burning up the airwaves.

    Or any of the political periodicals I peruse.

    To me, it's like calling someone a 'crypto-facist'... fun term, but not exactly on the tip of everyone's tongues.
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    outside of domestic US politics it's very much a relevant term.

    the Adbusters crowd uses it a lot. geezers like Chomsky and Zinn as well. folks working with NGOs, IGOs etc. folks working on int'l trade issues.

    think about IMF and WTO policies and their consequences wrt Latin America in the 80's. think of the Asian Tigers during the 90's. think NAFTA, GATT, etc.

    but yeah, in domestic US politics it means nothing. you won't hear it even mentioned.

    this wiki looks pretty good
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlegs2
    ""In the aftermath of the devastating earthquake in Haiti, The Heritage Foundation's Jim Roberts suggests that President Obama needs to reach out to none other than Dubya himself to tackle the relief effort:

    Like it or not, good or bad, figurehead or ****tard, it's a done deal https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...inton-for-help
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