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    A little too little, a little too late...

    I'm sorry, but this dog and pony show should've been done a day or two after the disaster. Oh, that's right he was on the longest vacation of any sitting president. Never mind...

    He wants to rely on "Habitat for Humanity???" More like Habitat for Haliburton. His handlers are failing him at most every turn.

    Rove might be good at exposing a CIA agent's identity to the media, but he sucks at times of crises. I guess that's because he's so compassionate. They are compassionate conservatives, aren't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyderman
    He wants to rely on "Habitat for Humanity???" More like Habitat for Haliburton.
    LOL!!! Now THAT is funny!

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    I hate Bush

    He is a evil, little man.

    He is only out to gain power and money for himself and his minions.


    It is not my fault that gangs from NO are fighting the gangs in the Houston schools.
    Joined the other team in the name of the economy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifelover
    I hate Bush

    He is a evil, little man.

    He is only out to gain power and money for himself and his minions.


    It is not my fault that gangs from NO are fighting the gangs in the Houston schools.
    Your a idyut moreon ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifelover
    It is not my fault that gangs from NO are fighting the gangs in the Houston schools.
    Yes it is.

    When are you libbies ever going to learn: it's always all your fault. Especially Clinton's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpcw
    Lifelover, hate is a strong word, don't ya think?

    I am surprised by the level and quantity of Bush-dislikers, the numbers of Liberals on this board. Most road riders I know are professionals who don't simply hate 'the machine' or 'Uncle Sam'.

    If you hate Republicans for the linear thought that you hate all Republicans, then you ain't thinking at all, you're simply a mouth-breather.

    Do you hate Govenor Blanco and Mayor Nagin too?
    What part of this post is the funniest?

    Is it the complete and utter lack of nuance sensability...the fact that his sarcasm meter (ATP's phrase) is dialed back to zero?

    Is it the fact that he calls him a non-thinkin' mouth breather?

    /For the record Lifelover is one of your conservative breathren and has been pretty much copying and pasting the same post again and again to make some sort of point about personal responsibilty...which would be working if the administration he often has extolled the virtues of...had any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpcw
    Lifelover, hate is a strong word, don't ya think?

    I am surprised by the level and quantity of Bush-dislikers, the numbers of Liberals on this board. Most road riders I know are professionals who don't simply hate 'the machine' or 'Uncle Sam'.

    If you hate Republicans for the linear thought that you hate all Republicans, then you ain't thinking at all, you're simply a mouth-breather.

    Do you hate Govenor Blanco and Mayor Nagin too?
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    GWB is so popular that he had to give the speech in deserted NO under especially tight security. How much do you think it cost the taxpayers to set up his soundstage?
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    The Valerie Plame Affair

    Quote Originally Posted by spyderman

    Rove might be good at exposing a CIA agent's identity to the media, but he sucks at times of crises. I guess that's because he's so compassionate. They are compassionate conservatives, aren't they?
    A very important yet under reported story. Back in the day, they used to line people up in front of a firing squad for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il sogno
    A very important yet under reported story. Back in the day, they used to line people up in front of a firing squad for this.
    Valerie Who? Hey...did you hear Britney had her baby? ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bocephus Jones II
    Valerie Who? Hey...did you hear Britney had her baby? ;)
    Britney? I'm waay beyond that man! I've moved on to the Renee Zellwegger/Kenny Chesney divorce.

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    Well at least Bush spends him time here in the good 'l US if A. Can't say the same for Bubba. You aslo have to wonder why he would spend so much of the American taxpayers money on foreign travel. Wasn't Disney World good enough for him? LOL!!!

    Government Auditor Finds Just 3 Recent Clinton Trips Cost $72 Million

    Clinton's Foreign Travel:
    Excessive or Abusive??
    The President's foreign travel is well reported, but its costs are largely unavailable. Because this president has set records as the most traveled president in American history, three U.S. Senators requested the government's official auditor to examine some of the recent travel expenses he has incurred. Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman Larry Craig, and Senators Jeff Sessions and Craig Thomas last year requested the General Accounting Office (GAO) to examine the costs of just three recent foreign trips taken by President Clinton in 1998 -- his travel to Chile, China, and to six countries in Africa. The results of this study, released today by GAO, suggest that Clinton's travel has gone past the level of excessive to that of abusive.

    Just those three trips cost the American taxpayer at least $72 million -- with the Africa trip alone accounting for $42.8 million. Not only did they seriously affect the taxpayer's wallet, these three trips seriously affected America's defense. Fully 84 percent of the $72-million price tag came from the DOD budget. For example, the cost per hour to fly Air Force One, the president's personal plane, is $34,400. Of course, the $72-million price tag paid for a lot more than just flying President Clinton. It also paid for 297 military missions largely for the ferrying back and forth of some 2,400 people and necessary equipment working -- sometimes months in advance -- to assure smooth travel for the President. The trip to Africa alone involved 10 advance trips by military planes and the travel of 904 DOD personnel -- the equivalent of a U.S. Army battalion. [Note that GAO generally defines a "mission" as including either a round-trip flight between the home base and the foreign destination, or travel that includes multiple flight segments, such as from points A to B to C and back to A.]

    As costly as the tab for these three presidential trips is, it does not measure the full cost to the taxpayer. GAO did not tabulate the additional costs of President Clinton's security out-of-country -- these were not requested for security purposes. Neither were the agency planning expenses included. Nor did GAO add in the cost of paying the military and other personnel who accompanied or prepared the way for President Clinton (despite the economic fact that these personnel would have been doing some other job if not on travel). Rather, only the additional, or "incremental," cost that the President's travel entailed is represented by the GAO figures. It is, then, by any description a conservative estimate.

    At the same time that President Clinton was using the Pentagon as his personal travel agent, he was also cutting back its budget. Every year he has been in office, President Clinton has cut the military budget. Simultaneously, he has broadened the military's role beyond the traditional one of defending America to peacekeeping and "nation building."

    It is not an exaggeration to say that President Clinton's travel has been excessive: he already holds countless records for presidential foreign travel -- Most Countries Visited (59), Total Foreign Travel Days (186), and Most Days of Foreign Travel Per Year (27.6). A synopsis of GAO's report follows.

    Africa: March 22 through April 2, 1998

    President Clinton visited Ghana, Uganda, Rwanda, South Africa, Botswana, and Senegal. Ten separate advance trips were required over a three-month interval and 1,300 individuals traveled either with or in support of President Clinton. According to GAO, "the purpose of the trip was to (1) help reshape the way Americans think about Africa; (2) show U.S. support for emerging democracies; (3) promote U.S. investment, trade, and economic growth in Africa; (4) promote education; and (5) promote conflict resolution and human rights."

    • While "promote U.S. investment, trade, and economic growth in Africa" and "promote education" were stated goals of the trip, not one official from the Department of Education and just three people from the Department of Commerce traveled to Africa. Those who did make the trip included 205 members of the Executive Office of the President.
    • DOD spent about $37.7 million in support of the trip. DOD flew 98 airlift missions and 110 aerial refueling missions, transported 13 Army and Marine Corps helicopters, established at least four separate maintenance support teams, and established temporary medical evacuation units in five countries. DOD sent 904 of the 1,302 people who traveled to Africa and paid 88 percent of the trip's $42.8 million cost.
    Chile: April 16 through April 20, 1998

    President Clinton visited Chile (according to GAO) "to attend the second Summit of the Americas and hold bilateral meetings with the President of Chile . . . . Agenda items at the summit included a discussion of the establishment of a Free Trade Area of the Americas, the promotion of democracy, and the eradication of poverty in the Americas."

    • While "the eradication of poverty in the Americas" was a major objective of the trip, just one person from (Agency for International Development) A.I.D. traveled to Chile. At the same time, 109 members of the Executive Office of the President made the trip.
    • "Five advance teams of State, White House, Secret Service, and/or DOD officials made five trips from November 1997 through April 1998 to prepare for the President's arrival."
    • DOD sent 193 of the 592 people who traveled to Chile and paid $8.8 million of the trip's $10.5 million cost -- 84 percent. DOD's expenses included 24 airlift missions and nine aerial refueling missions.
    China: June 25 through July 3, 1998

    The GAO reports that President Clinton visited China "to conduct bilateral talks with the President of China and for other purposes. . . .Issues discussed were security, nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction, economics and trade, energy and environment, science and technology, and law enforcement."

    • While "economics and trade" and "energy and environment" were agenda items, just two people from the Department of Energy and just nine from the Department of Commerce traveled to China -- along with 186 members of the Executive Office of the President.
    • Even more interesting is that while "law enforcement" was also an agenda item, not a single individual from the Department of Justice accompanied the President. In contrast, when law enforcement was on the Chile agenda, the Attorney General herself and 13 other individuals from the Department of Justice traveled there.
    • "Eight separate teams from the State Department, White House, Secret Service, and/or DOD made advance trips to Beijing, Xi'an, Shanghai, Guilin, and Hong Kong from April 1998 through June 1998." DOD sent 123 of the 510 people who traveled to China and paid 74 percent ($14 million) of the trip's $18.8 million cost. DOD's expenses included 36 airlift missions and 7 aerial refueling missions.
    More Trips: "Never found a place in the world he wouldn't want to go."

    And more to come: According to the Associated Press (Terence Hunt; 9/7/99), President Clinton will make his fifth presidential trip to Canada on October 8, and "a four-nation swing just before Thanksgiving to Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, and Italy."

    Next year will be just as scenic for the President. "The hottest speculation is that he will visit Vietnam, a place he struggled to avoid when he was draft-age," reports Hunt. China is also a possibility, as "aides note that the president told the Chinese women's soccer team he would like to go to China again." The President has visited (by RPC's count) 59 different countries and territories (many of them more than once), but new to his "Places I've Visited" list mentioned as possibilities by the Associated Press would be India, Pakistan, Brunei, Kosovo and Antarctica, as well as Vietnam, Turkey, Greece and Bulgaria. To date the President's record of 186 foreign travel days is more than double that of any other U.S. president. [RPC has available a set of charts detailing Clinton's travel: see RPC's "Excessive Clinton Travel Tab = Taxpayer Abuse," 9/21/99. Note that we compare days and countries traveled to among other presidents, but GAO is unable to prepare a cost estimate of travel of previous administrations for comparison purposes.]



    The Associated Press story included a candid quote from presidential counselor Doug Sosnik: "This is a guy that has never met an idea that he doesn't like, never met a person who's not interesting and never found a place in the world he wouldn't want to go." As the GAO study shows, he also never met a tab he didn't want the taxpayer to pick up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam
    ...at least Bush spends him time here in the good 'l US if A.
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