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    Orange'y, you're doing a heck of a job

    9 point swing in 2 weeks. Who coulda seen that coming with the 'amazing' response and bipolar inspired daily press'rs.

    Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of Trump's coronavirus response
    Support for President Donald Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic has diminished over the past two weeks, according to a new survey, with a majority of Americans now disapproving of his response to the public health crisis.

    An ABC News/Ipsos poll released Friday reports that 52 percent of respondents disapprove of his management of the deadly outbreak, while only 47 percent approve.

    The president's latest rating in the survey shows Trump's support backsliding from the levels he achieved in mid-March, when more than half of Americans, 55 percent, approved of his response and 43 percent disapproved.

    Since that previous iteration of the poll was published on March 20, the administration extended its social-distancing guidelines for another 30 days and worked to increase its testing capacity for the virus.

    But Trump also drew significant criticism for his initial reluctance to invoke the Defense Production Act to furnish much-needed medical equipment for states, and was forced to abandon his proposal to reopen the economy by Easter, which contradicted the advice of public health experts.

    At the same time, the administration has begun issuing more dire warnings regarding the severity of the outbreak, predicting that as many as 240,000 people could die even if Americans heed the federal government's guidance, and the number of confirmed cases of Covid-19 has soared beyond 245,000.

    Friday's survey is the latest example of public polling to show support for the White House's coronavirus response dwindling after Trump initially received higher marks for his efforts to stem the disease's rapid spread.




    And we're just getting started. As predicted by everyone with >3 brain cells.... this is gonna hit rural states too. Whether they believe it or not.
    Effective Monday? Really? Wouldn’t want to spoil the weekend with infection control

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    I think he misinterpreted his "High TV ratings". I guess most people were screaming profanity at the tube while he was running his mouth.

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    I wonder what Dr. Fauci's polling numbers look like?
    Given his penchant for nicknames, and his aversion to reading, I've decided to shorten Donald J. Trump to it's essence: Dump*

    I was "social distancing" before it was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus51569 View Post
    I wonder what Dr. Fauci's polling numbers look like?
    That's the real moronic thing. Trump seriously could've come out of this a hero and cinched the election. All he had to do was follow the advice of people like Fauci. But hey... much better to cater to the anti-science base

    Americans Trust Dr. Fauci and Local Leaders More Than Trump on Coronavirus
    Apr 02, 2020
    According to a new poll, only 45% of voters said they trusted Trump to tell the truth about the novel coronavirus outbreak.
    A majority of Americans do not trust President Trump to tell the truth about the novel coronavirus outbreak, according to a new poll from Navigator Research.

    Only 45% of voters said they trusted Trump, while 53% said they distrusted him and 2% said they didn’t know. The online survey of 1,010 registered voters found that Americans are instead putting their trust in figures like Dr. Anthony Fauci and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

    Fauci, an infectious disease expert from the National Institute of Health, has earned the trust of 65% of Americans, while only 8% distrust him, making for a remarkable +57 point gap. Cuomo, meanwhile, has a +17 point gap, as 43% of voters trust him compared to the 26% that don’t.

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    In late May when people will be able to come out of their shelters, the dire C-19 economic implications will become more obvious. thus whipsawing Donnie's premier re-election theme.

    Given this plausible reality, the question is not his re-election any longer, but how much worst will it be as he is escorted from the White House?
    I am 100% convinced the internet and social media are not the salvation to human civility.

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    The briefings aren’t working: Trump’s approval rating takes a dip
    In times of national crisis, the American people typically come together behind their president.

    But not this one.

    Donald Trump isn’t benefiting from what political scientists refer to as a “rally ‘round the flag” effect — a traditional surge in popularity as the nation unites behind its leader during an emergency situation.


    Throughout the first three years of his presidency, Trump’s approval rating has traded in a narrow band. But his failure to unite the country behind his leadership also reflects Americans’ judgment of his handling of the outbreak thus far: In poll after poll this week, increasing percentages say they think Trump is doing a bad job, and his administration hasn’t done enough to protect citizens from the effects of Covid-19.

    The mixed-to-negative views of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus emergency also poses a significant threat to his reelection prospects, now that former Vice President Joe Biden has emerged as the presumptive Democratic nominee and the virus threatens to become the dominant issue of the 2020 campaign.


    On Wednesday, six separate pollsters released new surveys. In all six, Trump’s approval rating was below 50 percent, ranging between 40 percent and 45 percent. And each suggested Americans had at best a mixed opinion of his response to the virus, and those with trendlines from weeks earlier in the crisis showed an uptick in the percentage of those critical of Trump’s response.

    Trump’s low approval ratings early in a crisis defy historical precedent. Presidents, dating back to the start of the modern polling era after World War II, typically see their approval ratings rise significantly when the country faces emergencies, though they more typically occur around international conflicts, mostly involving the military.

    According to Gallup’s archives, John F. Kennedy’s approval rating stood at 61 percent at the start of the Cuban Missile Crisis in the fall of 1962, but it had surged to 74 percent a month later.

    In October 1979, Jimmy Carter had a 31 percent approval rating. But after the siege of the U.S. embassy in Iran, Carter’s approval topped 50 percent in early December and hit a high of 58 percent in January 1980. It didn’t begin sagging again until the spring of 1980, and Carter was defeated by Ronald Reagan in November.

    More recently, George H.W. Bush’s approval rating shot up from 58 percent in early January 1991, to as high as 87 percent following the climax of Operation Desert Storm, the U.S.-led military action to drive Iraqi forces out of Kuwait.

    Bush’s son, George W. Bush, had a 51 percent approval rating in the Gallup poll conducted in the four days leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. By the end of the month, as Bush handled the immediate recovery and investigation, his approval rating hit 90 percent.

    Trump, by contrast, saw only the slightest increases in his approval ratings. According to the RealClearPolitics average, his approval rating stood at 44.5 percent a month ago, on March 8. By last week, it had ticked up to 47.4 percent — but as of Wednesday afternoon, including the new polls, it was back down to 45.2 percent.

    “We saw something,” said Patrick Murray, the director of the Monmouth University Polling Institute. “Whatever we saw was certainly not anywhere what the typical rally effect would look like, but there was a slight bump for him.”

    Monmouth’s new poll, out Wednesday, showed Trump’s overall approval rating at 44 percent, down slightly from 46 percent last month, during the early days of the crisis.

    In the new Monmouth poll, 46 percent of respondents said Trump was doing a good job dealing with the coronavirus outbreak, while 49 percent said he was doing a bad job. Last month, 50 percent said Trump was doing a good job, compared to 45 percent who said he was doing a bad job.

    That slightly increasing dissatisfaction with the federal response to the crisis was echoed in other polls. A new CNN/SSRS poll out Wednesday showed 45 percent of Americans approve of the way Trump is handling the outbreak, while 52 percent disapprove. The previous poll was conducted in early March — days before any significant restrictions or physical and social distancing measures were recommended — and it showed a similar, 7-point spread between the percentages of Americans who disapproved and approved of Trump’s performance on the issue.

    A Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday also showed a narrow majority disapproved of how Trump is handling the situation — 51 percent disapprove, compared to 46 percent who approve. That poll actually showed up a slight uptick in Trump’s overall job approval, to 45 percent, compared with the previous poll in early March, before any of the distancing measures were put in place by the federal government.

    Those numbers were echoed by a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll out early Wednesday — which showed Trump’s approval rating at 44 percent, unchanged from four weeks ago at the start of the crisis — and other surveys released by Reuters/Ipsos and Navigator Research, the Democratic operation.

    Private political polling generally shows the same stability — and a lack of a bounce — for Trump. Scott Tranter, the co-founder of the Republican data firm 0ptimus, told POLITICO that Trump’s job ratings have been relatively unchanged over the course of their polling. Some governors, Tranter said, have seen upticks in their approval ratings, while perceptions of Congress dipped during the negotiations over the last rescue package, which was passed and signed into law in late March after a week of back-and-forth between the parties on Capitol Hill.



    “At the end of the day, the fact that there wasn’t a huge rally effect given the severity and the breadth of this crisis is really what’s unusual here,” said Monmouth’s Murray. “And it says a lot about Trump’s unwillingness or inability to capitalize on a moment like this.”
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    Am currently watching a Governor Cuomo press briefing... whoa, actual common sense and articulate speaking from someone with actual leadership skills.

    Makes Trump’s briefings look like an angry orangutan hurling poop at reporters.
    MH: I want to go like my Dad did, peacefully, in his sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.

    Sys: Fake news?? Trump's a Fake President for God's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SystemShock View Post
    Am currently watching a Governor Cuomo press briefing... whoa, actual common sense and articulate speaking from someone with actual leadership skills.

    Makes Trump’s briefings look like an angry orangutan hurling poop at reporters.

    Agree.

    And I say that as someone who thinks the guy is deeply flawed in his actions, multiple times on multiple issues, as Governor. In this case though, he stepped up big time.
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    As a New Yorker (which means anyone from the STATE of New York, not someone who lives in one of the five boroughs...just sayin' folks), I do like the job Cuomo is doing.

    But, let's be honest...anyone who has captained a sports team, been a student government president (college, or even high school), led basically any decent interest group, been a school board member, been a neighborhood association member, been a volunteer group board member...basically any decent, smart person who is both a) smart b) smart enough to defer to people who know more about a certain topic c) smart enough to just THINK certain things and not say them (man, that one person who turns up to criticize ALL our agenda items...I HATE that person) would be doing a much, much better job than the orange criminal.

    Seriously, go grab the head of the Outdoor Adventures Club from some reputable college and they'd be doing wildly better leading the nation right now. Not kidding. And the insane thing is that all because he appeals to either their fears or hatred, millions still love the orange criminal.

    Be smart. Be hard-working (this is a big one...we know the orange criminal likes golf and fast food, not hard work).Be courteous. Don't insult people. Pick a good cabinet. And let the smartest person on whatever topic speak. I've been a part of many of the groups I listed and being a good leader really isn't that difficult, but you have to be smart, humble, and dedicated to the greater good. The orange criminal is NONE of these things.

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    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

    "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f—d.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuiQuaeQuod View Post
    Agree.

    And I say that as someone who thinks the guy is deeply flawed in his actions, multiple times on multiple issues, as Governor. In this case though, he stepped up big time.
    I have to say, here in the Buckeye State, I've been similarly impressed by Mike DeWine's handling of the affair.

    What's odd is this: The bulk of complaining about DeWine's actions here have come from my conservative/Republican friends (i.e., DeWine's base), so much so that I've been left wondering if contrariness is an early indicator of the virus.
    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

    "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f—d.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    The only instance of prescient thinking in the Donald's life.
    Life is short... enjoy the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradkay View Post
    The only instance of prescient thinking in the Donald's life.
    Which is why one of his media people likely wrote it.
    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

    "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f—d.”

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    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

    "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f—d.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
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    Broke the 2000 dead barrier today.

    Be proud, Republicans.
    "Damn. Y'all murdered the sh*t out that mutherf***er"

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutmd View Post
    In late May when people will be able to come out of their shelters, the dire C-19 economic implications will become more obvious. thus whipsawing Donnie's premier re-election theme.

    Given this plausible reality, the question is not his re-election any longer, but how much worst will it be as he is escorted from the White House?
    If he plays his cards right, the country will be re-opened and economy will partially recover before fall, then the virus will re-surge 10x worse than ever, a disproportionately large number of people in inner cities (Democratic voters) will get sick and die, the country will be shut down again suppressing voting in November and thereby sweeping Donnie to re-election. Brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Broke the 2000 dead barrier today.

    Be proud, Republicans.
    Have now surpassed Italy for the number of Covfefe-19 dead.

    Be proud, Republicans.

    You know how many dead South Korea have? 211. had their first reported infection the same day we did.
    "Damn. Y'all murdered the sh*t out that mutherf***er"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Have now surpassed Italy for the number of Covfefe-19 dead.

    Be proud, Republicans.

    You know how many dead South Korea have? 211. had their first reported infection the same day we did.
    We'll have 20,000 dead by the end of today, quite possibly before suppertime* (cf. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/covid-19-tracker/).

    DONT will likely try to spin that as a good job.
    More Americans wanted Hillary Clinton to be President than wanted Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump has never had a wife he didn't cheat on.

    "Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m f—d.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl View Post
    We'll have 20,000 dead by the end of today, quite possibly before suppertime* (cf. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/26/covid-19-tracker/).

    DONT will likely try to spin that as a good job.
    Of course... after all it could have been 240,000 (please forget that I called it a hoax...please forget that I called it a hoax)

    Meanwhile... Dump* considers reopening an economy he never closed in the first place:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/10/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-economy.html

    Given his penchant for nicknames, and his aversion to reading, I've decided to shorten Donald J. Trump to it's essence: Dump*

    I was "social distancing" before it was cool.

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    More than 2,200 coronavirus deaths in nursing homes, but federal government isn't tracking them
    The numbers are likely a significant undercount, given the limited access to testing and other constraints, state officials and public health experts say.

    Nearly 2,500 long-term care facilities in 36 states are battling coronavirus cases, according to data gathered by NBC News from state agencies, an explosive increase of 522 percent compared to a federal tally just 10 days ago.

    The total dwarfs the last federal estimate on March 30 — based on “informal outreach” to state health departments — that more than 400 nursing homes had at least one case of the virus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    Be proud, Republicans.
    There’s a few that get it, Steve Schmidt for example puts it pretty well.

    SCHMIDT: “When we look back at history, what we would have seen from Barack Obama back through Harry Truman is an American president calling for an international convention on pandemics, about how we bring the world together, how American leadership can drive toward a solution. Instead, we have the American delegation saying no to a communique because they won’t use the word ‘Wuhan flu.’ So it’s theater of the absurd that tops off every evening at the 6 o’clock follies where the American people are lied to nonstop, where he sows confusion, where he sows division, where he attacks the people who need help the most. We’ve never seen a dereliction of duty, we’ve never seen a level of unfitness for command, we have never seen a president more visibly failing hour by hour to meet the moment, to meet the test of history than we’re seeing with Donald John Trump, the 45th president of the United States. And I think by the time we get to the end of it, someone who will be universally regarded by historians, along with [James] Buchanan, the 15th president, who prefaced the Civil War, as the worst commander in chief in American history.”


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    Given his penchant for nicknames, and his aversion to reading, I've decided to shorten Donald J. Trump to it's essence: Dump*

    I was "social distancing" before it was cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlg View Post
    More than 2,200 coronavirus deaths in nursing homes, but federal government isn't tracking them
    The numbers are likely a significant undercount, given the limited access to testing and other constraints, state officials and public health experts say.

    Nearly 2,500 long-term care facilities in 36 states are battling coronavirus cases, according to data gathered by NBC News from state agencies, an explosive increase of 522 percent compared to a federal tally just 10 days ago.

    The total dwarfs the last federal estimate on March 30 — based on “informal outreach” to state health departments — that more than 400 nursing homes had at least one case of the virus.
    What? You mean, we, just like that evil Jhina, are under-reporting the true number of Covfefe-19 deaths, to try to conceal the worst of it from our citizens and the world?

    Nah, that wouldn't happen. we're America, the greatest country in the world. You know we're the best, we got the most people infected with the Covfefe-19 virus. MAGA.
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    From the WaPo.

    "Administration officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe internal deliberations, say the White House has made a deliberate political calculation that it will better serve Trump’s interest to put the onus on governors — rather than the federal government — to figure out how to move ahead."

    Adam Schiff warned you. Trump only works for Trump.

    And he wasn't the only one warning you.

    Pamela Karlen warned us during the impeachment proceedings
    Referring to Trump’s effort to use congressionally appropriated foreign aid as a quid pro quo for political favors, Karlan asked members of Congress to think about what it would look like if Trump subjected governors to similar treatment.

    “Imagine living in a part of Louisiana or Texas that’s prone to devastating hurricanes and flooding,” Karlan said. “What would you think if you lived there, and your governor asked for a meeting with the president to discuss getting disaster aid that Congress has provided for. What would you think if that president said, ‘I would like you to do us a favor. I’ll meet with you, and I’ll send the disaster relief, once you brand my opponent a criminal.’ Wouldn’t you know in your gut that such a president had abused his office?”
    Republican Senators knew Trump was this kind of person, knew there was a dangerous pandemic headed our way, and could have done something to prevent these sorts of things from happening. They chose not to.

    Be proud, Republicans. You have the blood of a nation on your hands.
    "Damn. Y'all murdered the sh*t out that mutherf***er"

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    Remember this, Republican efftards?

    "Damn. Y'all murdered the sh*t out that mutherf***er"

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