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    Serious question #1 - Should we dispense free beer

    Numerous studies have concluded that beer and wine provide health benefits. So my question is, why not dispense it free in college cafeterias? After all, college students can't afford $1,000 per year for beer and wine, so why not dispense it for free?
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    Hey I'm all for it, but don't be giving me any of the week ass, mass produced, American yellow crap brewed beer. I only want import or craft beer because I deserve it.

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    Oh and hey, afford has NOTHING to do with it. Everyone gets free beer and contraceptives! Let's have a party!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam View Post
    Oh and hey, afford has NOTHING to do with it. Everyone gets free beer and contraceptives! Let's have a party!!!
    screw the free contraceptives, I'll bring my own if someone provides the *****s. Hell, I'll bring enough for everyone.
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    Covering contraceptives : dispensing free beer :: apples : oranges

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaxRomana View Post
    Covering contraceptives : dispensing free beer :: apples : oranges
    both provide health benefits :: apples to apples
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlineflyer View Post
    both provide health benefits :: apples to apples
    One can certainly argue that beer provides way more health benefits than any contraceptive. Actually I've been waiting for some genius to post what benefits to health they provide. Haven't seen any yet though.

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    With all this free booze we're going to need more condoms and BC pills.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam View Post
    One can certainly argue that beer provides way more health benefits than any contraceptive. Actually I've been waiting for some genius to post what benefits to health they provide. Haven't seen any yet though.
    Nobody said "way more" and, apparently, you never read the Huntington Post.

    Drinking Benefits: How Alcohol May Affect Longevity And Heart Health
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    I'm thinking FREE beer would only raise the per capita student consumption sightly on most campuses!
    Of course I'm sure...that doesn't mean I'm right.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlineflyer View Post
    Nobody said "way more" and, apparently, you never read the Huntington Post.

    Drinking Benefits: How Alcohol May Affect Longevity And Heart Health
    Why would I read that trash and if a contraceptive has zero health benefits and beer has some, than any is "way more".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam View Post
    One can certainly argue that beer provides way more health benefits than any contraceptive. Actually I've been waiting for some genius to post what benefits to health they provide. Haven't seen any yet though.
    Amazing health benefits, physical as well as mental!
    You obviously don't like to fu*k!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam View Post
    Hey I'm all for it, but don't be giving me any of the week ass, mass produced, American yellow crap brewed beer. I only want import or craft beer because I deserve it.
    Even better idea right there ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Steam View Post
    Why would I read that trash and if a contraceptive has zero health benefits and beer has some, than any is "way more".

    Which medical school did you go to? Nursing school? Pharmacy school?

    If you didn't attend one of these then please inform us as to how you came to the conclusion that contraceptives have "zero health benefits"

    Should post menopausal women be allowed to have hormone replacement therapy?
    How about the pre and post op transgendered population?
    Women suffering from Endometriosis?
    Women with severe acne that isn't responding to other treatment?
    Women at high risk for Ovarian and Uterine cancers?
    Women with PCOS?

    All of these things are commonly treated with medicines that fall under the umbrella of "contraceptives".

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    Back in the day, my university would sponsor keg parties at the dorms. Free beer for all. The legal drinking age was 18 then. The student union sold beer in the basement.
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    Ben Franklin was in favor of beer. That's good enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    Ben Franklin was in favor of beer. That's good enough for me.
    Wasn't Ben a commie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Touch0Gray View Post
    I'm thinking FREE beer would only raise the per capita student consumption sightly on most campuses!
    This /\. Keystone and Natty light may not be "free"...but pretty damn close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacksonDodge View Post
    Which medical school did you go to? Nursing school? Pharmacy school?

    If you didn't attend one of these then please inform us as to how you came to the conclusion that contraceptives have "zero health benefits"

    Should post menopausal women be allowed to have hormone replacement therapy?
    How about the pre and post op transgendered population?
    Women suffering from Endometriosis?
    Women with severe acne that isn't responding to other treatment?
    Women at high risk for Ovarian and Uterine cancers?
    Women with PCOS?

    All of these things are commonly treated with medicines that fall under the umbrella of "contraceptives".
    I'm fine with that - well the transgendered thing I'm not. That's elective surgery. But I'm certainly not fine with the idea that we're paying for someone's promiscuity. Use a condom and if you don't have one, abstain if you don't want a pregnancy. Or hey how about this novel idea, PAY FOR THE PILLS OR IUD YOURSELF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlineflyer View Post
    both provide health benefits :: apples to apples
    If the beer is prescribed by a doctor, then insurance should cover it.

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    hooray beer

    I can't believe there are men on this forum that don't want women on BC or don't want to subsidize it

    hell some of the best years of most of our lives (college) were aided directly by this
    I for one hope some young men are able to reap some of those rewards and don't mind subsidizing it as some folks clearly subsidized my years

    think of it as paying it forward or returning the favor
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    Quote Originally Posted by atpjunkie View Post
    I can't believe there are men on this forum that don't want women on BC or don't want to subsidize it

    hell some of the best years of most of our lives (college) were aided directly by this
    I for one hope some young men are able to reap some of those rewards and don't mind subsidizing it as some folks clearly subsidized my years

    think of it as paying it forward or returning the favor
    Why don't you link post where someone said they don't approve of BC?

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    First that is one really stupid original post.

    Secondly, I am interested in the re-framing that is being attempted (and because we know that DEMS are terrible at owning an argument even when if favors them greatly). I am curious how a women who pays for her medical insurance (which is a private company...we do not have national coverage or a government omnibus plan) and is asking them to cover her birth control...somehow devolves into...freebies, raised taxes and welfare (not to mention the number of times women as a class have been disparaged these last few weeks on this board, which really makes we wonder about PO as a viable forum here at RBR).

    My guess is that this is just willful obfuscation and may if I may don the hat of Dr. Bottombrackshell for a moment...stem from a real tussle some men may have with women, empowerment and the notion of gender equity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsmybush View Post
    First that is one really stupid original post.

    Secondly, I am interested in the re-framing that is being attempted (and because we know that DEMS are terrible at owning an argument even when if favors them greatly). I am curious how a women who pays for her medical insurance (which is a private company...we do not have national coverage or a government omnibus plan) and is asking them to cover her birth control...somehow devolves into...freebies, raised taxes and welfare (not to mention the number of times women as a class have been disparaged these last few weeks on this board, which really makes we wonder about PO as a viable forum here at RBR).

    My guess is that this is just willful obfuscation and may if I may don the hat of Dr. Bottombrackshell for a moment...stem from a real tussle some men may have with women, empowerment and the notion of gender equity.
    A lot of women want equality but want to keep the pedestal part too.

    This whoie issue is not about persecuting women, it is defining the separation line between Church and State. I think the Catholic position on birth control is stupid, backward and should change but I don't believe the government has the right to order such a change.

    The various arguments here about it not being universally applied seem to indicate that it is indeed changing. At any rate, women are not being denied this medication any more than very many genuinely ill people are denied medications because they can't afford them. This is part of the abortion/reproductive rights fight and nothing more but it has spilled over into the separation area as well. For people with deeply held religious beliefs that is a dangerous area for the government to expand into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakebit View Post
    A lot of women want equality but want to keep the pedestal part too.

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    This opinion of yours I assume is based on the years you spent being a woman.
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